A Beehive Is Your Backyard Pharmacy!

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In a world brimming with complexity, few creatures

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embody harmony like the honeybee. With tireless

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precision, she dances from bloom to bloom, each

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motion guided by millennia upon millennia of

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instinct, each act in service to the whole. And

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then there are... the beekeepers, watchful stewards

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of this ancient symbiosis. Part agriscientist,

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part poet, they move along their hives with the

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efficiency of mow, levy, and curly, tending to

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the bee's needs as best they can comprehend,

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and with the infrequency of a waterfall in the

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Sahara. sometimes running off flapping and flailing

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like a penguin on a hot sidewalk. This is their

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journey. Welcome, welcome to Be Love Beekeeping

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presented by our great friends and partners in

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beekeeping, Man Lake. Today's interview is taking

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us across the pond for a fun conversation with

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a beekeeper and apitherapy expert in France.

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We'll be discussing everything from rooftop beekeeping

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in New York City to medicinal uses for honey,

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propolis, royal jelly, and more. There's a ton

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of useful content coming your way, so let's jump

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right into it. I'd like to welcome our super

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very special guest today to the show, Jean -Francois

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La Rivière. How did I do? Fabulous. Très bien.

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Coming to us from the southwestern part of France.

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Do you want to tell us exactly where you are

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and what it's like there? Yeah, I'm in a department

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called Aquitaine. It's the region, it's the southwest

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part of France, about an hour outside of Bordeaux.

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So it's a mix of agricultural activity and, of

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course, not too far, 30 minutes away, you're

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going to find a lot more vineyards, because that's

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still a principal activity here. My hives actually

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are right near a centre des castes, which is

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a horse ranch. It's where they do the horse riding.

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They give lessons and they've got a lot of horses.

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So we've got a lot of pasture there. So I've

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got a beautiful scenic view when I work in Mabize.

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I got horses walking across just a few yards

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away. far enough away so they're not in danger.

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But there have been a couple of times I've had

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to warn the horses to get back because my bees

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are not happy today. And sure enough, I'll see

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one get, start kicking his heels and running

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off quickly because when they get upset, the

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bees, you know what they do. They like to circulate

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and look for the culprit. Funny you mention that

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because just last week with a guest on the show,

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we were talking about how bees can be so moody.

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And how their moods can very much change. Not

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of one bee, the whole hive, the whole super organism

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of a bee colony. They feed off of each other

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and they have the same kind of mood. But that's

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not the main focus today. We're going to be talking

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a lot about apitherapy, which people know is

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one of my favorite topics, and urban beekeeping

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and all kinds of stuff. So why don't you take

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us back? In fact, yeah, let's jump in there.

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What does Manhattan and rooftop beekeeping have

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to do with you, Jean? It was, I broke the law

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back then, just so you know. not criminally found

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guilty or anything, but it was back when beekeeping

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was illegal in Manhattan and in most cities around

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the world, well, at least American cities. And

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I had shortly discovered, because we had a house

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upstate and we were gonna tap it, fix up the

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shed in the back of the property, make it a workshop,

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you know, workplace to make things. And it turns

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out we had some bees in there that were kind

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of buzzing and flying in and around and in and

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out. We're like, oh man, let's go. Let's go get

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a good spray can at a local hardware store and

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take care of these girls." And the person, my

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ex at the time, who had one of the great ideas

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she had was that, you know, no need to go kill

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them. You can call a beekeeper and he'll come

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in and he'll take him on the wall, throw him

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in a box. And by the bing, by the bang, we'd

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have some honey. And I said, that sounds cool.

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You know, I grew up on a farm in Missouri. So

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I was like, yeah, I could dig that. We ordered

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the gear and had the guy deliver it. When he

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finally showed up, he was like, where are the

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bees? I go, there's one. He was like, he laughed.

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He goes, that's just a solitary bee. He'll be

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dead in the spring. He'll be dead this winter.

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And like, oh shoot, what do we do? Well, it's

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too late to start. He goes, why don't you wait

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till spring? So sure enough, we went to our spring

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banquet where everybody gets together. We have

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a nice meal before the honey season really kicks

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into place. And driving into the parking lot,

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I'm seeing the same old kind of tired vehicles

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like my old pickup. except I saw one beautiful

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red Porsche on 911. I said, I wanna know what

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he's doing. This guy, this beekeeper's gotta

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have something going on. Turns out he was the

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guest speaker and he described how he had ankylosing

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spondylitis. He had a type of arthritis of rigid,

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solidified his spine and he was an immovable,

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he was an actor and he couldn't even get out

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of bed anymore. But luckily he finally discovered

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there was an old beekeeper up in Vermont, Burlington,

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Vermont, Charlie Mraz. who had been known for

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years using B -venom therapy and trying to get

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that. more established for helping humans with

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immune diseases, immune deficiency diseases.

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And so I thought, man, I'm gonna do an interview

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with you, this actor. And he was like, I could

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do a documentary on you. And he said, yeah, but

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you know, I prefer you go see the old man. So

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it took me a year to get up there. And that's

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where I met Charlie and him reaching into the

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hive with his hands, grabbing some bees and throwing

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them into a jar so he can show us how to use

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bee venom therapy. And then the next day in that

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evening, I actually met Dr. Brad. who was the

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president of the American Apothecary Society

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at that time. And he was very dynamic and passionate,

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too, about what he knew about the bees and, as

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a doctor, how well, how important it was. And

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so, hey, I just loaded up on information he gave

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me, and that's when I created a blog page on

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AOL Hometown, you know, with dial -up internet

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at the time. And so we were able to get a page

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started with information and sharing, and I got

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involved with the American Apothecary Society.

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full speed, I'd just dive in and end up being

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like a media coordinator, sending out facts and

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letting folks know about bees and what bees can

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do for you, bee venom therapy and all the other

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products. And I ended up sneaking some beehives

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on my rooftop because I thought it'd be great

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to harvest some honey here in Manhattan and snuck

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them in in some black garbage bags in the elevator

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at night, carrying them up to the rooftop and

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set them up there where they... brought in some

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beautiful, delicious acacia honey. Because it

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turns out Manhattan had a bunch of acacia trees

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planted along the streetsides, roads. Because

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the biggest reason why? Because the leaves are

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small, so they could go through the drainage

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ditches and the culverts and easily without clogging

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up the drainage systems. And so that's why they

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planted them. And they smell so good. Acacia

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has such a fantastic aroma and the flavor, too.

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So that's how I got started with beehives on

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my rooftop. And you mentioned Charlie Maraz.

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I've read his book. It's not very long. It's

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a pretty easy read, but it has a ton of good

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information in it. Is anybody carrying on his

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legacy, family member, or anything? Well, as

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a matter of fact, this November, 6th, 7th, and

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8th, in Burlington, Vermont, the American Apitherapy

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Society will be hosting another conference there.

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And his grandson, who's continuing the legacy

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of taking care of the bees, is going to be one

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of the guest speakers, as well as a couple people

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from way back in the day when I joined the Apitherapy

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Society in the 1990s. Dr. Christopher Kim, who

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was using bee venom therapy, injectable bee venom

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for individuals who had chronic diseases. And

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so he will be a guest keynote speaker there.

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And so, yeah, it's the tradition carries on.

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And his, I forget, I don't know his first name,

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I have not met him yet, but looking forward to

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doing that. And he's also passionate about it.

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So you're going to be there for that? Yep, yeah,

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we're gonna be there, yeah. I just may buy a

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ticket and head out there. That'd be great to

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see. We'll talk about that off mic. Let's talk

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beekeeping. What were some of the challenges

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in Manhattan? I mean, back, I know we're talking

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back a lot of years. It used to be one of the

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most air polluted cities in the country and the

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world, things like that. Were those problems

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or was it just easy sailing there? It was easy.

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Except for all the rooftops, this old rooftop,

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it was a six story building, so it was pretty

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decent access. I was able to access it because

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I was part of the board or the co -op board.

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And so I snuck them up there and wanted to see

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how well they do. And I had to bring water up

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there because one of the thoughts I had was because

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they're on this rooftop, which is painted silver.

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So it's not much of evening sun, maybe a little

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bit of shade in the evening. because it was facing

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south, so we had plenty of exposure. And I brought

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in a tub of water with a big board going in it.

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So I thought, you know, I don't want them wasting

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their energy going and finding water from the

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Hudson River. I prefer to have it right here

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to cool off their hive and to maintain the temperatures

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there. And that was my biggest concern there.

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And in fact, one time, he told somebody about

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this and who was involved in apitherapy. He was

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actually the former... lawyer for the American

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Beekeeping Federation. The advice that he had

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given somebody else was like, they were concerned

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about being stung by bees. And his advice was,

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well, ask them to prove it was your bees and

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not somebody else's. Or wild bees, for that matter.

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Yeah, precisely, precisely. And the co -op president

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found out about the bees being on the rooftop

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and... She was like, Jean -François, you know,

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that's illegal. And somebody could be, somebody

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could die from these things, or it could be allergic

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to it. I said, because they actually had workers

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going up on the roof trying to fix some leaks

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or something like that. I was like, well, you

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know, actually, you know, I'm sorry I didn't

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have a chance to ask you, but you know, my bees

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had been attacked by a bear upstate in our house.

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So I brought them back here to keep them safe.

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for a while until we get rid of the bear. She

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was like, oh, those poor bees. Okay, well, you

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know, you gotta make sure you get rid of them

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soon because the workers gotta do some work up

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there. So like, I stretched a bit there, the

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story, but I did have a bear attack a couple

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of times upstate. So it wasn't a complete false

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story. It just was convenient. All right. Well,

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before we shift over to apatherapy, what's beekeeping

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like in your part of France? You mentioned it

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sounds like a beautiful area with the horse ranch

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and everything around. Yeah, yeah. Just one little

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anecdote to the Manhattan's beekeeping story.

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I lived right near a metro station. It was on

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the corner from our, near our house was a 24

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-hour shop that was run by Koreans, typically

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manage those kind of shops that were open all

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the time. And they sell everything there. One

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of the things they sold were fresh cut flowers.

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As I'm walking past her after work, because I

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had this daytime job, this was a hobby. I walked

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past her with a fresh cut flowers and I looked

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and I saw some honeybees there. I was like, oh,

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great. Good job, girls. They were taking some

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pollen from these fresh cut flowers and taking

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it up to the rooftop. And so I was pleased to

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see that activity there, taking advantage of

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local produce, local available floral. sources,

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you know, they went to Manhattan. They'd go to

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the Riverside Park. They went to the Central

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Park. It was a convenient and in the morning

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I get up there at six in the morning and I watch

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them flying. It was like watching planes out

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of JFK or LaGuardia. They either go ahead east

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or west. They go towards the Central Park or

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they go west towards New Jersey, Riverside Park

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and all that. So that was a real soothing pleasure

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moment to those particular times. And I know

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there's quite a few beekeepers in Manhattan now.

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I don't know how many. Yeah, that's right. But

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I've heard of quite a few. It's a thing now.

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And of course, for a lot of hotels and things

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like that, it's a prestige thing now to have

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your own beehives on your hotel. So it's amazing

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the shift that's happened over the years. It's

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a good thing. I was stopped. at customs coming

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into the country one visit one year. And he was

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like, is this for business or pleasure? I said,

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a little bit of both. Oh yeah, what's your business?

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And he was really kind of, you know, like they

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are like, yeah, what kind of business do you

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got? I said, well, actually I'm a beekeeper.

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You know what, a beekeeper, what's that? You

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know what bees make honey? He was like, oh, you're

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the reason why I'm fat. I go, what? He says.

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I love that barbecue place up in Harlem, and

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that guy's got beehives on the rooftop, and he

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uses honey. He used that honey from his hives

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to make his barbecue sauce. I go, there you go.

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Well, you know, honey's actually good for you,

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so go ahead and continue visiting. Plug for the

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barbecue place in Harlem using honey in their

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barbecue sauce. All right, what's France like?

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Well, France is quite different in the sense

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of beekeepers. One of the things that I found

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really I had to adjust to is that you're beekeeping

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material when you... What they do here is they

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actually use a frame of, they use a sheet of

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beeswax and the traditional method where you've

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got a heating element that heats one end of the

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wire that goes, weaves through the wooden frame

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and you're attaching both ends and you're putting

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electric current through there and it slowly

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heats that wire so it melts into the sheet of

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wax. And that's what I'm using now. Whereas in

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the States, I was buying the plastic sheet that

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had wax embedded on top of it, or I would buy

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the plastic frames that were completely with,

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you know, fully drawn plastic and the bees just

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cap it. I had done, I'd used both, I used all

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three when I was in New York. Here I'm just using

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the traditional method, and I find it just perfect.

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It takes more time, but I like the fact that

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my bees are working with just raw honey, pure

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wax, I should say. And then I reef melt it down

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and I resell it back. So I go to my local beekeeper,

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beekeeping supply company, and we trade that

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in like a block of gold, you know, with silver.

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It's valuable stuff. And so you actually, the

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practice here is if you keep your own wax, you

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can have your own wax reused and make your own

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sheets with your own wax, which is, you know,

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part of being like pure organic beekeeping in

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France and Europe. It's called bio being. BIO,

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bio apiculture, ap beekeeper, is using his own

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wax. Because that way you're controlling what

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kind of contaminants are present or no contaminants

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are present in your bees' wax. And that's because

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otherwise the wax is coming in from all over

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the place. Outside of that, really there's quite

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a few beekeepers. Everybody's registered. You

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got a registration number, and you got to be

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informed, stay registered each year with local

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federations. That's important. This beekeeping

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harvest this year was probably the worst on record

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because of the drought that they've experienced.

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You know, the world has experienced so many heating

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changes in frequency for climate change that

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it's really affected what they can harvest. And

00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.840
having a lack of water, lack of flowers, sources,

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nectar. So that's been challenging this year.

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But I find... Beekeepers are, you know, they're

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good people as they are, you see in the States.

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A lot of small -time beekeepers and then some

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of them retiring because it's getting hard work.

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And so you'll find some bigger operations. We've

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got a mix of operations here, smaller guys and

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bigger operators that comes in various sizes.

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And generally speaking though, France consumes

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more honey than they produce. So obviously there's

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a lot of importation still taking place and coming

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in from... What's pathetic is when I look at

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a jar of honey and I buy them whenever I travel,

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when I've voyage, I buy honey when I visit. Like

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in the States, I bought some honey. In Spain,

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I bought some honey. And you look at it and you

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see it's local. You can tell. And in Europe,

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they have to record where the origin of the product

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is, whether it's your vegetables, the meat, or

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in this case, the honey. And it'll say, from

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European sources or outside of Europe. So in

00:17:09.019 --> 00:17:10.680
other words, it's from around the world and they've

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kind of eliminated that distinction of just being

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European honey and it's kind of from everywhere.

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Well, let's shift gears because I know how much

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into apotherapy you are and I want to make sure

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that we have plenty of time to talk about that.

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Let's start with this. Give me just an overall

00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:31.359
for people that know, hey, honey's good for me.

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beeswax, you know, I get in my lip balm or whatever.

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Give us a 30 ,000 foot view of apotherapy in

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general and some of the places that the average

00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.799
beekeeper can go with this. Yeah, yeah. Well,

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that's, you know, frankly, that's how I got started

00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:50.960
too. Though I learned all about this information,

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that was after I got started. So I went to my

00:17:53.819 --> 00:17:56.779
original beekeeping meetings and I thought, well,

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I'll be the first beekeeper never to get stung.

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I'm wearing extra thick clothing, thick gloves.

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And then that's when I met this guest speaker

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who was using these things for his arthritis.

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I mean, oh, wow, that's really wild, but that'll

00:18:10.140 --> 00:18:12.180
never be me. But one of the first experiences

00:18:12.180 --> 00:18:14.900
I had was when I dropped my hive tool down into

00:18:14.900 --> 00:18:17.609
the hive and then you're wearing those thick

00:18:17.609 --> 00:18:19.009
leather gloves and you're not gonna be able to

00:18:19.009 --> 00:18:20.829
pick this thing up. It's laying flat, so I gotta

00:18:20.829 --> 00:18:23.589
take off the glove. and I'll put my hand in there,

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really nervous, you know, thinking, what's going

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to get me? They're going to get me. And just

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slowly reaching down slowly, slowly pulling it

00:18:30.390 --> 00:18:33.029
back up. I discovered that if you move gently,

00:18:33.049 --> 00:18:35.630
you're not aggressive and an aggressive movement

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is not going to startle the bees. And so you

00:18:37.650 --> 00:18:40.490
can work with them without gloves all the time

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or a helmet or, you know, the protection. One

00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:45.299
of the things I've learned over the years is

00:18:45.299 --> 00:18:48.019
that by starting like in the States, I would

00:18:48.019 --> 00:18:50.079
work with my bees. And when I noticed that they

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were getting a little bouncing off of me a little

00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.630
too often, I knew that within, and I know that

00:18:55.630 --> 00:18:57.730
today is still the case, it's within five minutes,

00:18:57.730 --> 00:19:00.690
you're gonna get stung. The bees will tolerate

00:19:00.690 --> 00:19:03.230
it for a while. And if, and you'll know right

00:19:03.230 --> 00:19:05.329
away if they're in the mood, right? You mentioned

00:19:05.329 --> 00:19:07.990
that earlier, but I've noticed they're like bouncers,

00:19:08.049 --> 00:19:09.809
you know, like, okay, come on, back off, get

00:19:09.809 --> 00:19:12.509
away. You've had enough. And so I know then,

00:19:12.609 --> 00:19:14.230
okay, I'm gonna get stung. And sure enough, it's

00:19:14.230 --> 00:19:16.049
happened so many times, it's very predictable.

00:19:16.650 --> 00:19:19.390
But as a beekeeper, then I said, okay, well,

00:19:19.529 --> 00:19:21.829
so these guys are getting stung. They're not,

00:19:21.970 --> 00:19:23.650
you know, okay, maybe I swell up a little bit.

00:19:23.710 --> 00:19:25.769
Yeah, big deal. But apparently it stimulates

00:19:25.769 --> 00:19:28.690
your immune system. Yeah, really, wow, then that's

00:19:28.690 --> 00:19:30.529
probably a good idea to get stung once for a

00:19:30.529 --> 00:19:33.450
while. Then I discovered that, you know, with

00:19:33.450 --> 00:19:37.789
honey, that is unnatural. Not only is it a sweetener,

00:19:37.849 --> 00:19:39.910
actually, my opinion right now is you should

00:19:39.910 --> 00:19:42.339
be calling it medicine. Honey is a medicine.

00:19:42.890 --> 00:19:44.930
Think about our grandmothers, our great -grandmothers.

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And centuries back, you go centuries, and you

00:19:47.009 --> 00:19:49.250
can go back to the time of the Egyptians. They

00:19:49.250 --> 00:19:54.250
had the papyrus, they wrote on paper. Half of

00:19:54.250 --> 00:19:56.730
the remedies that they recommended for people

00:19:56.730 --> 00:20:01.809
to heal, they were using honey. Out of 450 different

00:20:01.809 --> 00:20:04.289
remedies, half of them contained honey. So honey

00:20:04.289 --> 00:20:07.549
goes way back in our history, and it's for good

00:20:07.549 --> 00:20:10.289
reason, because it has a lot of real good value,

00:20:10.710 --> 00:20:14.630
not just for... as a soothing the throat, healing

00:20:14.630 --> 00:20:19.390
wounds, soothing the pain from a burn. Right

00:20:19.390 --> 00:20:21.049
away, you put a burn and you get burned, you

00:20:21.049 --> 00:20:23.069
put some honey on it. And that really takes the

00:20:23.069 --> 00:20:26.210
cooling, draws a cooling effect there and prevents

00:20:26.210 --> 00:20:30.609
that overheating because of the heat. Even better

00:20:30.609 --> 00:20:33.210
than cold water, better than ice. So those are

00:20:33.210 --> 00:20:35.730
a couple of experiences I had just early on that

00:20:35.730 --> 00:20:39.180
I found worked. One time I was, when I was learning

00:20:39.180 --> 00:20:40.619
this, I was like, oh, that's interesting, but

00:20:40.619 --> 00:20:42.420
you know, I'm not sure I want to use myself as

00:20:42.420 --> 00:20:45.380
a guinea pig and burn myself to see and treat

00:20:45.380 --> 00:20:47.240
one half with honey and the other half with nothing.

00:20:47.980 --> 00:20:50.019
But one day I was pouring some steam, making

00:20:50.019 --> 00:20:52.980
a hot tea and the steam just was boiling, you

00:20:52.980 --> 00:20:55.019
know, coming up and burned my hand. It was hot.

00:20:55.059 --> 00:20:58.519
I was like, ah, ah, me, that hurts. I'm going

00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:00.680
to put some honey on it. So I lathered some honey

00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:02.740
on there and I waited about a half hour, an hour

00:21:02.740 --> 00:21:04.180
later, you know, and then I'm licking it off

00:21:04.180 --> 00:21:05.579
because it's honey for you. It's good for you.

00:21:06.660 --> 00:21:09.779
And about three hours, four hours later, I noticed

00:21:09.779 --> 00:21:12.980
that something was kind of painful there, hurting

00:21:12.980 --> 00:21:15.500
still. And I looked, and there was this little

00:21:15.500 --> 00:21:17.759
splotch of my hand that actually neglected the

00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:20.519
cover in honey. And so I found I was able to

00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:25.460
create a double -blind study on myself. But generally,

00:21:26.220 --> 00:21:29.240
from that point on, I said, OK, so there's some

00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:31.200
value in this honey now. What about propolis?

00:21:31.490 --> 00:21:34.170
Can I just interject something on the burns there

00:21:34.170 --> 00:21:37.369
and honey? I had it explained to me this way,

00:21:37.589 --> 00:21:40.369
and you tell me if this makes sense to you, because

00:21:40.369 --> 00:21:44.789
it did make sense to me. With burns, it's not,

00:21:44.970 --> 00:21:48.289
if you take cold water, you're actually cooling

00:21:48.289 --> 00:21:52.890
that burn, but the idea of putting honey on a

00:21:52.890 --> 00:21:56.390
burn is a chemical reaction and that reaction

00:21:56.390 --> 00:22:00.690
keeps happening and it needs oxygen to keep happening

00:22:00.690 --> 00:22:04.230
and keep burning your skin. Putting honey on,

00:22:04.410 --> 00:22:08.410
which is anaerobic, takes the oxygen out so it

00:22:08.410 --> 00:22:11.650
stops that chemical reaction which is why it

00:22:11.650 --> 00:22:14.869
stops the burn. Am I correct on that? Because

00:22:14.869 --> 00:22:18.039
I am NOT a chemist. And neither am I. And so

00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:20.339
you're teaching me something about anaerobic

00:22:20.339 --> 00:22:22.900
and oxygen needing. It's true, a fire needs oxygen.

00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:27.119
So logically, that would make sense there. What

00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:31.079
I learned was that honey, because it's hygroscopic,

00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:33.619
it lacks moisture. It has a tendency to draw

00:22:33.619 --> 00:22:37.079
moisture towards it. So drawing moisture from

00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:39.359
underneath that burn and around that burn from

00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:42.680
that skin will help also cooling it. And that's

00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:45.329
my understanding of how it works. Your explanation

00:22:45.329 --> 00:22:49.309
makes sense as well. Yeah, so it has to be quickly.

00:22:49.569 --> 00:22:51.250
It has to be right away. It has to be right away.

00:22:51.369 --> 00:22:53.650
You can't wait like a half hour. It's too late.

00:22:53.869 --> 00:22:56.769
It's not even now. Yeah, and unfortunately, there

00:22:56.769 --> 00:22:59.329
isn't enough scientific studies, at least that

00:22:59.329 --> 00:23:02.670
I've seen, that would say, hey, I've got a third

00:23:02.670 --> 00:23:06.309
degree burn. I'm going to forget all the medical

00:23:06.309 --> 00:23:09.450
stuff. I'm just going to use honey. We are not

00:23:09.450 --> 00:23:12.990
telling people to do that. No, no. But we are

00:23:12.990 --> 00:23:16.960
saying... Yeah, whether it's the experience you

00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:20.339
had or some experiences that I've had, same kind

00:23:20.339 --> 00:23:23.180
of thing. It's amazing how it works. You burn

00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:24.579
your hand on the skillet. You're right there.

00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:26.500
You're in the kitchen. You've got your jar of

00:23:26.500 --> 00:23:28.240
honey. Put some honey on there. I mean, I burned

00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.539
myself recently too, and I... delayed applying

00:23:31.539 --> 00:23:33.660
the honey right away. I was carrying it to the

00:23:33.660 --> 00:23:36.420
table. We had gas, so it was, you know, you don't

00:23:36.420 --> 00:23:39.319
run it back to the cupboard. So I waited like

00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:40.680
three minutes. I said, you know, I should put

00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:42.539
some honey on that, because it is burning. Now

00:23:42.539 --> 00:23:45.660
that it's burning, I feel it. It was a little

00:23:45.660 --> 00:23:47.759
delayed effect, but it did calm it. It's just

00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:50.119
that the problem when you do that, then of course,

00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:51.980
is if it's on your hand, you gotta be careful.

00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.119
You don't wanna touch your body. You got the

00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:56.500
honey all over. That's the problem with honey

00:23:56.500 --> 00:23:59.839
and burns. If it's a small burn, put some honey

00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.460
on it, put a Band -Aid on top of that so you're

00:24:02.460 --> 00:24:05.160
not getting sticky all over the place. But I've

00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.619
had people tell me, and again, these are just

00:24:07.619 --> 00:24:12.579
personal experiences, that, oh, I had a bad sunburn

00:24:12.579 --> 00:24:16.700
on my shoulders, he said. He gets back to the

00:24:16.700 --> 00:24:20.200
hotel room, puts honey on it, leaves it on for

00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:24.869
an hour, then showers off and says, made a huge,

00:24:24.910 --> 00:24:27.369
huge difference compared to anything else that

00:24:27.369 --> 00:24:30.390
he could have done. Compared to aloe vera, which

00:24:30.390 --> 00:24:33.650
a lot of us use and things like that. So, jury's

00:24:33.650 --> 00:24:36.269
still out. We need more science on this stuff,

00:24:36.309 --> 00:24:38.789
but there are so many great anecdotal stories

00:24:38.789 --> 00:24:41.829
that for a lot of people, it's worth trying.

00:24:42.589 --> 00:24:44.750
And I started researching some of the stories

00:24:44.750 --> 00:24:47.309
because when I saw some of the documentation

00:24:47.309 --> 00:24:50.430
that Dr. Weeks shared with me, I went, oh yeah,

00:24:50.490 --> 00:24:52.579
that's good too. And then I... started following

00:24:52.579 --> 00:24:55.579
people that were also posting things on products

00:24:55.579 --> 00:24:58.339
on the beehive. And one of the things they identified,

00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:00.619
there were studies that were done that found

00:25:00.619 --> 00:25:03.880
that honey was better at calming a cough than

00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.079
any over -the -counter cough syrup. You don't

00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.960
need a lot, it's just a small little amount that

00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:13.869
is going to calm it down. On this podcast you

00:25:13.869 --> 00:25:16.569
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00:25:16.569 --> 00:25:20.009
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00:25:20.009 --> 00:25:23.369
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MLBlove10. I was sick last week, so I couldn't

00:26:14.450 --> 00:26:16.349
come see you. And I had the sniffles. And then

00:26:16.349 --> 00:26:18.849
I had a runny nose. And I'm like, ah, I mean,

00:26:18.849 --> 00:26:22.309
it's dripping like I got a faucet leak. Oh, man,

00:26:22.349 --> 00:26:24.369
this is annoying. And I went, Jean, don't you

00:26:24.369 --> 00:26:27.890
remember? Dr. Week said, snort honey. I went,

00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:30.670
what? He said. So I went, yeah, you're right.

00:26:30.710 --> 00:26:33.009
That's right. And so I did. I went and I got

00:26:33.009 --> 00:26:35.509
my jar of honey. I stuck my finger in my jar

00:26:35.509 --> 00:26:38.529
of honey and laid down. and sniffed up some honey

00:26:38.529 --> 00:26:42.289
off my nose. Why? Because honey is antibacterial.

00:26:43.150 --> 00:26:45.250
And the bacteria are causing your nose to drain.

00:26:45.630 --> 00:26:48.210
The body is trying to get rid of the bacteria

00:26:48.210 --> 00:26:52.009
that's irritating that part of the sinus cavity.

00:26:52.730 --> 00:26:55.609
So snort that honey. Instead of the other things

00:26:55.609 --> 00:26:58.130
you might snort, honey will work. I had to do

00:26:58.130 --> 00:27:00.869
it, and it was a pretty serious drip, so it would

00:27:00.869 --> 00:27:03.230
stop. I laid for about 10 minutes, you know.

00:27:03.869 --> 00:27:06.250
And it stopped. So that's good. And I go back

00:27:06.250 --> 00:27:08.309
to work. And then it would start draining again

00:27:08.309 --> 00:27:10.890
because the doesn't kill it right away. Not all

00:27:10.890 --> 00:27:12.670
of them. There's a lot of bacteria. I had to

00:27:12.670 --> 00:27:14.269
do it like four times throughout the day. But

00:27:14.269 --> 00:27:16.089
it finally dried up and I had no more dripping.

00:27:16.529 --> 00:27:19.049
So that's another little handy tip. But just,

00:27:19.049 --> 00:27:21.410
you know, from your own jar of honey, of course,

00:27:21.490 --> 00:27:23.690
is ideal. All right. Let's talk about propolis.

00:27:24.349 --> 00:27:26.990
Oh man, propolis, my favorite product. I gotta

00:27:26.990 --> 00:27:29.930
tell you, it is the master product of the hive,

00:27:30.089 --> 00:27:32.109
I think, because they use it not just to sterilize

00:27:32.109 --> 00:27:34.890
the hive, not just to glue things together, not

00:27:34.890 --> 00:27:38.309
just to block holes, but they're using it to,

00:27:38.369 --> 00:27:40.349
you know, every time before the queen lays an

00:27:40.349 --> 00:27:42.170
egg, they're putting a little coating of propolis

00:27:42.170 --> 00:27:44.470
in that honeycomb cell just to ensure that that

00:27:44.470 --> 00:27:47.390
egg will transform healthy into a healthy larva,

00:27:47.490 --> 00:27:50.910
and a pupa, and a honeybee. Of course, it doesn't

00:27:50.910 --> 00:27:53.410
work on that varroa that jumps in there in the

00:27:53.410 --> 00:27:56.009
process. But nonetheless, it is an important

00:27:56.009 --> 00:27:58.910
part of them to maintain a sanitary condition

00:27:58.910 --> 00:28:02.230
in the hive. And honeybees apply propolis every

00:28:02.230 --> 00:28:06.130
year to their interior. Honeybees recycle propolis.

00:28:06.630 --> 00:28:09.470
We found that video of that where she's actually

00:28:09.470 --> 00:28:11.450
collecting it from another hive and going to

00:28:11.450 --> 00:28:14.009
take it back and use it again. She says they

00:28:14.009 --> 00:28:17.210
repurpose beeswax. They do that with propolis.

00:28:17.289 --> 00:28:20.789
But propolis is the product that has Antidacterial

00:28:20.789 --> 00:28:23.849
properties, antiviral, anti -inflammatory properties.

00:28:24.569 --> 00:28:26.990
It's an excellent antioxidant. I've got a document

00:28:26.990 --> 00:28:29.170
that shows how it has your people talk about

00:28:29.170 --> 00:28:32.230
health, healthy nuts, you know, like us. We talk

00:28:32.230 --> 00:28:34.150
about, well, you know, that black, you know,

00:28:34.309 --> 00:28:36.349
black dark chocolate is good. It's got a good

00:28:36.349 --> 00:28:39.250
antioxidant properties. And so does black, so

00:28:39.250 --> 00:28:42.089
does coffee and, you know, and blueberries. Yeah.

00:28:42.410 --> 00:28:44.769
And, you know, broccoli. Yeah. They're good sources

00:28:44.769 --> 00:28:47.269
of anti -oxidant. Well, if you compare their

00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:52.049
antioxidant quantity, that they contain compared

00:28:52.049 --> 00:28:55.430
to what's available in propolis is flick. It's

00:28:55.430 --> 00:28:57.849
a thousand times higher. It's incredible. I've

00:28:57.849 --> 00:29:00.329
got a good little graphic on that. It just shows

00:29:00.329 --> 00:29:02.250
you down here and all of a sudden boom, there's

00:29:02.250 --> 00:29:05.309
propolis. Now it's really high. And so as an

00:29:05.309 --> 00:29:07.490
antioxidant, it's a natural antioxidant. Wouldn't

00:29:07.490 --> 00:29:09.970
anything in fact, a newer research is showing

00:29:09.970 --> 00:29:13.440
that, we talk about being an immune system booster.

00:29:13.619 --> 00:29:16.200
It's like a natural antibiotic. That's the term

00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.799
we would use. That's not a medical term, of course.

00:29:19.009 --> 00:29:21.670
we're not suggesting that but what they have

00:29:21.670 --> 00:29:24.089
seen over the years now in the later studies

00:29:24.089 --> 00:29:27.230
is that it helps regulate the immune system because

00:29:27.230 --> 00:29:30.789
even during covid the immune system was overreacting

00:29:30.789 --> 00:29:32.970
because the lungs were filling with fluids and

00:29:32.970 --> 00:29:35.910
so it was a overreacting immune system and that

00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:38.829
wasn't helping the condition of the body and

00:29:38.829 --> 00:29:41.150
so what they found with using propolis is that

00:29:41.150 --> 00:29:44.109
would regulate it so if it was overreacting would

00:29:44.109 --> 00:29:46.769
calm it down and if this immune system is weakened

00:29:46.769 --> 00:29:49.660
it'll strengthen it. The fact that it has all

00:29:49.660 --> 00:29:51.740
these properties is the reason why you'll find

00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:55.579
it is in a toothpaste, chewing gum, mouthwash,

00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.599
nasal sprays, throat sprays, vaginal ovules,

00:29:59.779 --> 00:30:02.140
suppositories, tinctures, yeah. Now the tinctures,

00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:04.700
you know, challenge there is that it's an alcohol,

00:30:05.099 --> 00:30:07.380
but it can be applied in many ways, which is

00:30:07.380 --> 00:30:09.279
nice. You can drip it, you know, for folks who

00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:11.900
don't like the irritating aggressiveness of the

00:30:11.900 --> 00:30:14.920
alcohol. recommendation is you put some drop,

00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:17.940
drop some, put several drops on a piece of bread,

00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.319
a piece of a cookie or a cake or something, you

00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.220
know, so that it absorbs. And then you wait 10

00:30:22.220 --> 00:30:25.000
minutes. So the operation of the alcohol dissipates

00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.579
and it's less aggressive. And so you get the

00:30:27.579 --> 00:30:31.299
goodness without having that aggressive effect.

00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.140
I even use B propolis like a tincture to get

00:30:35.140 --> 00:30:37.359
rid of warts. I've got planners warts sometimes

00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:39.819
and they reappear when you get out and. you know,

00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.079
public spaces and swimming pools and things like

00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.319
that. Put a couple of drops on it. Three or four

00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.220
days later, you might need to apply it again.

00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:48.640
And you know, after about a week or 10 days,

00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:50.839
that skin disappears and you don't have any more

00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.940
of the warts gone in the skin zone. So that's

00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:57.279
a cool thing. Even on mosquito bites, I've got

00:30:57.279 --> 00:30:59.819
a spray, a propolis spray that I use at my tincture,

00:30:59.980 --> 00:31:02.500
diluted down to a small amount. And you just

00:31:02.500 --> 00:31:04.369
do a little psst. right on there and creates

00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:06.950
a nice little fine film on there. And that calms

00:31:06.950 --> 00:31:10.089
that irritation and a need to scratch. And by

00:31:10.089 --> 00:31:12.890
the way, your cat really wants to be on camera

00:31:12.890 --> 00:31:17.390
and that's okay. We don't mind. And also all

00:31:17.390 --> 00:31:19.910
of these things that we're talking about today

00:31:19.910 --> 00:31:24.670
are things that you can do yourself. If you can't

00:31:24.670 --> 00:31:27.730
do them yourself for some reason, John has a

00:31:27.730 --> 00:31:32.450
website, BeHealthyFarms .com where You have a

00:31:32.450 --> 00:31:34.970
bunch of this that people can purchase there

00:31:34.970 --> 00:31:38.089
if they need to. All right, let's shift gears.

00:31:39.009 --> 00:31:41.049
Bee venom. And you talked a little bit about

00:31:41.049 --> 00:31:44.609
this earlier for arthritis and things like that,

00:31:44.609 --> 00:31:48.509
but how do people use it? How do they, do they

00:31:48.509 --> 00:31:51.109
need to collect it? Do they need to get it done

00:31:51.109 --> 00:31:54.450
straight from the bee? Give us an overview of

00:31:54.450 --> 00:31:57.099
bee venom, which I love by the way. Well, we

00:31:57.099 --> 00:32:00.400
got going in Manhattan with, I was full steamy

00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.140
ahead with apotherapy. We had sessions twice

00:32:03.140 --> 00:32:05.259
a week in our apartment, Manhattan apartment,

00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:09.380
where folks would show up in a wheelchair with

00:32:09.380 --> 00:32:13.339
tennis elbow or chronic fatigue syndrome or multiple

00:32:13.339 --> 00:32:15.619
sclerosis. And we would show them how they used

00:32:15.619 --> 00:32:19.319
to be to do stings, you know. And since then

00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.579
we've... Calm down, since then, recommendations

00:32:22.579 --> 00:32:26.019
by some of the world -renowned apotherapists

00:32:26.019 --> 00:32:28.700
that you've had on the board, Stefan Stengalcu,

00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:32.299
Dr. Stefan Stengalcu, who just always recommends

00:32:32.299 --> 00:32:35.579
before you start that, go to an immunologist

00:32:35.579 --> 00:32:37.619
and get tested to see if you are allergic to

00:32:37.619 --> 00:32:41.930
these things. And then start slowly. Start very

00:32:41.930 --> 00:32:45.650
slowly. You might see pictures online of people

00:32:45.650 --> 00:32:49.769
getting 10 stings along their spine. Start much

00:32:49.769 --> 00:32:53.210
slower than that. The technique we learned that

00:32:53.210 --> 00:32:56.230
I found really were practical back then was you

00:32:56.230 --> 00:32:58.529
get a sting, give us, you know, if you got that

00:32:58.529 --> 00:33:02.309
little bee and if you got your big tweezers,

00:33:03.289 --> 00:33:07.599
put that little bee on there and she'll sting

00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.259
you because she's not happy. And then you...

00:33:10.009 --> 00:33:13.069
pull her away, and after three to five seconds

00:33:13.069 --> 00:33:15.569
maximum, scrape out the stinger, take it out.

00:33:16.190 --> 00:33:18.130
Don't give yourself the foes, just three seconds

00:33:18.130 --> 00:33:23.349
sting, and then wait 20, 30 minutes. And if you

00:33:23.349 --> 00:33:25.730
get a little whelp, which like you do, you get

00:33:25.730 --> 00:33:27.869
a whelp when you get a mosquito bite, huh? You

00:33:27.869 --> 00:33:30.089
get a little whelp, and that's normal. You'll

00:33:30.089 --> 00:33:32.150
get the little whelp, that's normal. And the

00:33:32.150 --> 00:33:34.009
recommendation was if it gets bigger than a quarter,

00:33:34.349 --> 00:33:37.869
then you're pretty sensitive, so. Be easy. Go

00:33:37.869 --> 00:33:40.269
really slowly here. Don't get the full dose.

00:33:40.509 --> 00:33:43.390
Go take it easy. And that's if you're willing

00:33:43.390 --> 00:33:46.569
to try it on your own, you know. I got started

00:33:46.569 --> 00:33:49.309
early on and I had some scar tissue here. I wanted

00:33:49.309 --> 00:33:51.730
to soften it up and get loose. It was from an

00:33:51.730 --> 00:33:54.869
early surgery when I was 16. I did several stings

00:33:54.869 --> 00:33:58.150
right there. And I know after a little bit, I

00:33:58.150 --> 00:34:01.170
started noticing I was itching under the armpits

00:34:01.170 --> 00:34:04.630
and the pubic area. And I was like, oh, and I

00:34:04.630 --> 00:34:05.849
shared that with some people. They were like,

00:34:05.849 --> 00:34:07.230
oh, that's because you're a little sensitive.

00:34:07.309 --> 00:34:09.469
You might want to take it easy there. Plus, you're

00:34:09.469 --> 00:34:11.050
stinging in a zone where you've got some glands

00:34:11.050 --> 00:34:13.150
there. You've got some lymph glands, in fact.

00:34:13.289 --> 00:34:15.530
So you're probably stimulating the body a little

00:34:15.530 --> 00:34:18.150
bit more than you should. So go slowly. And so

00:34:18.150 --> 00:34:20.469
ever since then, I didn't have any issues, you

00:34:20.469 --> 00:34:23.190
know, and get stung many times with my bees.

00:34:23.630 --> 00:34:25.590
And I remember learning this upstate New York

00:34:25.590 --> 00:34:27.929
when we were doing our beekeeping meetings and

00:34:27.929 --> 00:34:32.130
such was that there were cases of or wives of

00:34:32.130 --> 00:34:35.690
beekeepers would develop a hypersensitivity to

00:34:35.690 --> 00:34:39.289
bee venom because they're touching them, the

00:34:39.289 --> 00:34:41.550
clothing that they're touching and washing in

00:34:41.550 --> 00:34:44.230
the washing machine, the beekeeping suit and

00:34:44.230 --> 00:34:47.289
having very delicate contact with something that

00:34:47.289 --> 00:34:50.329
cause her to have a hypersensitivity to it. And

00:34:50.329 --> 00:34:52.909
I say that's the same with beekeepers. I recommend

00:34:52.909 --> 00:34:55.750
all beekeepers to get stung. You need to be stung

00:34:55.750 --> 00:34:58.289
regularly so that you have a tolerance to that,

00:34:58.329 --> 00:35:00.079
as opposed to trying to be... you're remarkably

00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.719
distant from that little bee. You've got thousands

00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.320
of them around you all the time. Yeah, I'm a

00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.099
big believer in EpiPens too. Be safe, just in

00:35:10.099 --> 00:35:13.719
case you need it. An EpiPen or an Effie can really

00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.179
help a lot. If you know that you're good with

00:35:17.179 --> 00:35:20.920
bee stings, and you want to do this as a sting

00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.579
therapy, how long should you leave that stinger

00:35:23.579 --> 00:35:26.380
in to get the full amount of venom possible?

00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.820
Three to five minutes, it's done. Yeah, leaving

00:35:29.820 --> 00:35:32.840
it longer does has no value. It's a tiny little

00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.320
sector of micrograms of venom in there. And as

00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.559
long as it's pumping, and you can see it, you

00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.139
can see those autonomic nervous muscles working,

00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.320
they're pumping away, it's gone. It'll still

00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.300
be pumping and it's still empty. It'll be empty.

00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.019
So three to five minutes, that's it. And that's

00:35:50.019 --> 00:35:53.800
all you need. It's true. EpiPen and also having

00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.139
Benadryl, that's it, Benadryl. So there's Benadryl.

00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:01.000
And there are some other antihistamines that

00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:04.820
can also be used. We had a doctor on a little

00:36:04.820 --> 00:36:07.820
while back, an allergist, and she talked all

00:36:07.820 --> 00:36:11.659
about this. So the EpiPen, how to use it, the

00:36:11.659 --> 00:36:14.119
Nephi, which is a new thing. It's just like the

00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.840
EpiPen, but it's a nasal spray instead of a needle.

00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:20.639
And using some of the over -counter kind of things

00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.780
like such as Benadryl and some of the other nasal

00:36:24.780 --> 00:36:28.269
sprays can also work. if it's a very mild kind

00:36:28.269 --> 00:36:31.190
of reaction. But one of the points that she made

00:36:31.190 --> 00:36:34.590
that I want to remind people of and that is if

00:36:34.590 --> 00:36:38.130
there seems to be a big reaction happening, let's

00:36:38.130 --> 00:36:40.389
say you're in the bee yard with me and you're

00:36:40.389 --> 00:36:44.110
having a reaction. Don't wait until that person

00:36:44.110 --> 00:36:47.469
can't breathe like their airway is completely

00:36:47.469 --> 00:36:50.610
shut off. Don't wait that long. You're not going

00:36:50.610 --> 00:36:54.630
to hurt them by giving them this EpiPen shot

00:36:54.630 --> 00:36:58.320
now. And another one later, if they need it while

00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.380
you're on your way to the hospital, don't wait

00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:03.019
till it's absolutely critical. It's better to

00:37:03.019 --> 00:37:07.110
be safe than sorry and do it. Yeah, yeah. And

00:37:07.110 --> 00:37:09.429
just to add to that, you know, the Benadryl,

00:37:09.670 --> 00:37:13.079
it's a slower effect, slower acting. effect,

00:37:13.260 --> 00:37:15.139
but it'll provide you with longer protection.

00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.719
So if it's a longer trip to the emergency room,

00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.139
the Benadryl, excuse me, the EpiPen, the quick

00:37:22.139 --> 00:37:24.579
dose there, and then take the Benadryl so that

00:37:24.579 --> 00:37:26.960
as that wears off, you still got additional protection

00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.579
in the long term. And if you need it faster,

00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.659
because you don't have an EpiPen, you can chew

00:37:31.659 --> 00:37:34.340
the Benadryl. Oh yeah, right. Sure. That'd be

00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:36.940
quicker too. Yeah. Anyway, we're not doctors.

00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.940
We shouldn't go too far down that path. No. Again,

00:37:40.179 --> 00:37:42.559
here's the disclaimer for the last time today.

00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.440
We're not offering medical advice here. Okay,

00:37:45.460 --> 00:37:47.880
keep going. I will. I actually, you know, sometimes

00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.059
I don't like the idea of actually having to kill

00:37:50.059 --> 00:37:52.280
a honeybee just to sting myself. But I had a

00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.440
little wart that was annoying me. It was on my

00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.800
hand there for so many years. And I'd say, as

00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:58.420
I would see one of those little bees walking

00:37:58.420 --> 00:38:01.179
away from the hive, you know, she's like the

00:38:01.179 --> 00:38:03.139
elephants that go and die outside the hive if

00:38:03.139 --> 00:38:05.949
they can, because they're very... sanitary creatures.

00:38:06.250 --> 00:38:08.789
So I would grab her and I would sting that. And

00:38:08.789 --> 00:38:11.150
it doesn't have the same effect. A young bee,

00:38:11.969 --> 00:38:13.710
spring bee from the inside of the hive is going

00:38:13.710 --> 00:38:15.570
to be very potent. The ones that are crawling

00:38:15.570 --> 00:38:18.650
away, there's some of the venom content has changed.

00:38:18.949 --> 00:38:21.590
So the components in that, and there are many

00:38:21.590 --> 00:38:24.389
components in the bee venom. And so there's something

00:38:24.389 --> 00:38:27.230
missing there. As she gets older, it's weakened.

00:38:27.710 --> 00:38:30.530
It still stings, but it doesn't have some of

00:38:30.530 --> 00:38:33.550
that. punch that you get from the younger fresh

00:38:33.550 --> 00:38:36.010
peas. So that's enough on the bee venom, I guess.

00:38:36.389 --> 00:38:38.610
All right. Let's talk bee pollen and then royal

00:38:38.610 --> 00:38:41.130
jelly. By the way, there are bee venom creams

00:38:41.130 --> 00:38:43.230
on the market. So folks don't want to risk themselves

00:38:43.230 --> 00:38:48.260
with a sting. What would they use that for? Our

00:38:48.260 --> 00:38:52.440
joint pain, warming up muscles, warming up muscles

00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.760
before an exercise or even sore muscles. Because

00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.739
what the venom does is it stimulates the body

00:38:57.739 --> 00:39:01.590
to respond to a zone, whether you've got a poison,

00:39:02.130 --> 00:39:04.389
a venom. And so red blood cells, white blood

00:39:04.389 --> 00:39:06.010
cells are showing up. They're trying to control

00:39:06.010 --> 00:39:08.110
this thing. And so it heats it up. You get a

00:39:08.110 --> 00:39:11.860
lot of rich, oxygen rich blood cells showing

00:39:11.860 --> 00:39:14.280
up in there and it warms it up nicely. It really

00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.119
has a really warm feeling. It has a nice effect

00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.440
for that reason. We're stimulating the body.

00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.800
We're manipulating the body's healing system

00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:26.880
for our own benefit. And that's why it works.

00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:29.679
Hopefully they don't mind too much. Okay, bee

00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:33.150
pollen. Okay, bee pollen. You know, bee pollen

00:39:33.150 --> 00:39:36.889
is the source of royal jelly. So with that bee

00:39:36.889 --> 00:39:39.349
pollen, those little bees can't make it. So it

00:39:39.349 --> 00:39:41.969
ties in nicely because you'll find a lot of the

00:39:41.969 --> 00:39:43.590
vitamins and minerals have similar properties

00:39:43.590 --> 00:39:46.349
in the bee pollen, as well as in the royal jelly.

00:39:46.590 --> 00:39:49.429
Royal jelly is transformed, so it's even more

00:39:49.429 --> 00:39:51.829
special. But your bee pollen, you've got, basically

00:39:51.829 --> 00:39:54.610
you've got 13 vitamins, 14 minerals, and 15 amino

00:39:54.610 --> 00:39:58.130
acids. That's the numbers that can vary a bit

00:39:58.130 --> 00:40:01.469
depending on the source of pollen. It is a completely

00:40:01.469 --> 00:40:04.949
well -rounded nutritional source, rich in protein

00:40:04.949 --> 00:40:08.230
and all these little multivitamins, these minerals

00:40:08.230 --> 00:40:13.190
that we don't normally get in our dietary intake.

00:40:13.389 --> 00:40:15.739
You know, we've got foods, we've got... whatever,

00:40:16.019 --> 00:40:17.840
we're not getting them all there. And they might

00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:20.000
be artificially added, but that's still not the

00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.340
same. And what's nice about bee pollen is that

00:40:22.340 --> 00:40:25.260
it actually was well -rounded. So the dosages

00:40:25.260 --> 00:40:27.679
are equivalent. You've got copper, you've got

00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.599
gold in there, you've got selenium, you've got

00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.960
silica, you've got manganese, magnesium. Depending

00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:35.559
on where you're at, where your location is, you

00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.900
could even have some, it's coming from the source,

00:40:37.980 --> 00:40:42.480
from the soil. So that's where the flowers are

00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:47.030
generating that protein. And it is best taken

00:40:47.030 --> 00:40:50.949
fresh. I highly recommend it fresh. I know beekeepers

00:40:50.949 --> 00:40:53.170
have been drying it for years because it makes

00:40:53.170 --> 00:40:56.150
it very stable. So you can take care of it, share

00:40:56.150 --> 00:41:00.170
it, sell it, market it, and it's dry. But dry,

00:41:00.409 --> 00:41:02.489
it's like eating hay. Would you rather have fresh

00:41:02.489 --> 00:41:06.469
grass as a horse or hay? What about freezing

00:41:06.469 --> 00:41:10.300
it? Freezing it, yeah. Freezing is fine. Freezing

00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:12.699
it in an airtight container. And that's what

00:41:12.699 --> 00:41:15.460
we do. That's what I did when I was in New York

00:41:15.460 --> 00:41:17.820
where I had my hives there. Here today, I've

00:41:17.820 --> 00:41:21.460
got a supplier that does it. And he's got a special

00:41:21.460 --> 00:41:25.659
monofloral sources of pollen, which have other

00:41:25.659 --> 00:41:28.239
values and virtues that are slightly different.

00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:33.219
So that's peculiar. That's a trait of pollens.

00:41:33.579 --> 00:41:36.659
But a multifloral. Pollen is really good and

00:41:36.659 --> 00:41:40.500
a great recommendation to consume if you have

00:41:40.500 --> 00:41:42.400
some allergies. So you know people who have allergies,

00:41:42.619 --> 00:41:45.539
they should go very slowly, very, very slowly.

00:41:45.579 --> 00:41:48.500
It's taking one or two grains. And this is the

00:41:48.500 --> 00:41:51.260
technique we learned. Take two pollen granules,

00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.940
the pellets that they collect. Take two or put

00:41:54.940 --> 00:41:56.860
one in your mouth and just wait to see if you

00:41:56.860 --> 00:41:59.059
have a reaction a half hour later if Somebody

00:41:59.059 --> 00:42:01.320
is allergic and locally and you see want to help

00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:03.440
with your allergies It's great to take pollen

00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.539
even though it's not the protect exactly the

00:42:05.539 --> 00:42:08.019
same pollen that's floating through the air It's

00:42:08.019 --> 00:42:10.199
still gonna help your immune system reinforce

00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:14.219
its strength against these allergens The recommendation

00:42:14.219 --> 00:42:17.119
was you take okay if that you pass that test

00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:19.659
then you just take two pellets is Every time

00:42:19.659 --> 00:42:22.500
you have a meal and you add two more So this

00:42:22.500 --> 00:42:24.800
morning I just take two pellets and then at lunch

00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.780
I'll have four and then I'll have six. And you

00:42:27.780 --> 00:42:29.980
work up slowly that way. That way you have less

00:42:29.980 --> 00:42:33.340
of a risk of having a reaction. And the reaction

00:42:33.340 --> 00:42:36.239
would basically end up being your body causing

00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:39.420
you to vomit, expel it out of your body. So it's

00:42:39.420 --> 00:42:43.079
not like it's a tragedy. I had a friend who was

00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.059
just moved from Jamaica. We worked downtown.

00:42:46.300 --> 00:42:47.860
just across the street from World Trade Center.

00:42:48.539 --> 00:42:50.179
And I'd said, she's allergies were bad, so I

00:42:50.179 --> 00:42:52.119
gave her this advice. I said, well, take it slowly,

00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.980
okay? He said, okay, okay, Angela, that's it.

00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:56.900
I didn't see her for like three or four weeks.

00:42:56.900 --> 00:42:59.000
And I saw her finally came across, ran across

00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:00.699
each other and said, hey, so how's it going?

00:43:00.820 --> 00:43:02.679
Good, okay. How about that, Paul? Are you still

00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.179
taking it? No, I stopped. Oh, why is that? She

00:43:05.179 --> 00:43:08.579
goes, well, I just found that it was, seems so

00:43:08.579 --> 00:43:11.880
silly just to take in so few at a time. So I

00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:14.579
took a teaspoon full and, oh yeah, so what happened?

00:43:15.300 --> 00:43:18.440
I threw up. I say, well, that's the body's natural

00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.139
way of getting rid of something. It doesn't like

00:43:20.139 --> 00:43:22.679
that something is not beneficial for it. So that

00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.519
was a good reference for me to share with others

00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.639
to deal with it. I talked to one person who the

00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.739
first time that they took it, they took a teaspoon

00:43:30.739 --> 00:43:34.659
full, not realizing. Now they didn't throw up,

00:43:35.289 --> 00:43:38.150
which to me, anything is better than that. but

00:43:38.150 --> 00:43:41.829
they had a huge allergic reaction. Oh, yeah.

00:43:42.349 --> 00:43:46.170
Watery eyes, sneezing, runny nose. Everything

00:43:46.170 --> 00:43:51.590
was just going crazy for a while. Like, you know,

00:43:51.690 --> 00:43:53.949
like your hay fever times a hundred kind of thing

00:43:53.949 --> 00:43:57.409
until it wore off. So that's not a whole lot

00:43:57.409 --> 00:44:02.250
of fun either. That's an overdose. Yeah, definitely.

00:44:02.750 --> 00:44:05.909
And so if you've got dry pollen, if you're selling

00:44:05.909 --> 00:44:07.590
it still, what you can recommend to customers

00:44:07.590 --> 00:44:12.250
to do is to take their normal quantity they consume

00:44:12.250 --> 00:44:15.929
every day, put it in a liquid the night before,

00:44:16.230 --> 00:44:20.929
something liquid like a juice or milk or yogurt

00:44:20.929 --> 00:44:23.050
or whatever it is that you consume for breakfast.

00:44:23.530 --> 00:44:27.230
But if you put that dry pollen in something liquid,

00:44:27.389 --> 00:44:30.599
it'll help. open up that little pollen granule

00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.119
with not the granule but the microscopic pollen

00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:36.320
that's in that little pellet it will help open

00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.579
them up because they've been dried out so they're

00:44:38.579 --> 00:44:41.519
closed and if they get moist it'll help open

00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:44.239
up and that'll help you that person consuming

00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.059
that dry pollen it'll help them get more of the

00:44:47.059 --> 00:44:50.239
nutritionals nutritious value out of that pollen

00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.900
the protein source and then and the vitamins

00:44:52.900 --> 00:44:55.250
and so forth I know we're going fast. I hope

00:44:55.250 --> 00:44:57.469
you don't mind. But we're trying to cover a ton

00:44:57.469 --> 00:45:01.429
today. Yeah, I like your correction. Royal Jelly

00:45:01.429 --> 00:45:04.389
is the product I have used the least and understand

00:45:04.389 --> 00:45:08.710
the least. So give us an idea of, first of all,

00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:11.739
how does a normal person harvest it and what

00:45:11.739 --> 00:45:15.460
are they going to use it for? Ah, well, you know,

00:45:15.539 --> 00:45:17.760
harvesting is a real challenge because you got

00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:19.659
to dedicate your equipment to that. You're going

00:45:19.659 --> 00:45:24.219
to have hives dedicated just to reproducing royal

00:45:24.219 --> 00:45:26.480
jelly so they can have a queen cell. So they

00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.820
have, you know, you've got a bar full of, and

00:45:28.820 --> 00:45:32.159
you get little queen cups. I've not harvested,

00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.880
I've not produced my own royal jelly. I know

00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:36.940
I've got some beekeepers and there are beekeepers

00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:39.440
in France that do that on their own. They specialize

00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:41.980
just in doing that. And because it's a special

00:45:41.980 --> 00:45:44.280
to you. Generally they're, it's queen rears.

00:45:44.579 --> 00:45:47.639
Those who rearing queens generally also can produce

00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.000
royal jelly because it's the same. same base

00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.440
foundation. You need workers developing it and

00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:57.420
making enough royal jelly to have a queen cell.

00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:59.539
And you're scraping it out and they're sucking

00:45:59.539 --> 00:46:01.699
it out and getting rid of the larva at the same

00:46:01.699 --> 00:46:04.840
time when they're harvesting it. But it is a

00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:10.840
very dynamic source of energy, vitality. It's

00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:13.460
a hormone regulator for men and women. Hormones

00:46:13.460 --> 00:46:16.300
are having difficulty, whether it's... you know,

00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:18.860
estrogen or testosterone. It's a stimulator for

00:46:18.860 --> 00:46:22.360
both organs. And that ties into the central nervous

00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:26.280
system, that it is a brain booster is the recommendation

00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.460
or the reference that we used often to say that

00:46:29.460 --> 00:46:33.139
it really helps the central nervous system and

00:46:33.139 --> 00:46:36.719
provides stimulation. Synapses are working better.

00:46:37.099 --> 00:46:39.820
And you know, ironically, in the synapses, our

00:46:39.820 --> 00:46:42.679
nervous system has these little nerves that don't

00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.780
touch and they're connected. by this fluid between

00:46:45.780 --> 00:46:50.360
them, these synapses. And in that fluid is acetylcholine.

00:46:50.699 --> 00:46:52.880
Whale jelly contains acetylcholine. It's a pretty

00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.639
rich source of acetylcholine. So it has that

00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.159
component, which kind of makes sense that it

00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.239
has this ability to assist aid the central nervous

00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.940
system. It also is really rich in B vitamins.

00:47:03.340 --> 00:47:06.260
It has antitumoral effects, anti -aging effects,

00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.440
properties, I should say. It's a good antioxidant.

00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.019
Neurotropic, we've mentioned that because of

00:47:12.019 --> 00:47:14.230
central nervous system. It's an excellent source

00:47:14.230 --> 00:47:17.750
of B vitamins, including penithinic acid, a natural

00:47:17.750 --> 00:47:21.559
source of penithinic acid. Penithinic acid, if

00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:23.380
you're sleeping during biology class, that's

00:47:23.380 --> 00:47:25.300
what helps. That's what the body needs to produce

00:47:25.300 --> 00:47:29.199
cells and cell growth. And so they need penithinic

00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.320
acid for that. Collagen, producing collagen.

00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.500
We know collagen for the skins. The base formula,

00:47:34.699 --> 00:47:37.619
the base source of nutrition is penithinic acid.

00:47:37.980 --> 00:47:40.320
So it's a natural source for that. And I see

00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:43.889
that people use it both. internally and externally

00:47:43.889 --> 00:47:47.909
in the form of anti -aging creams, things like

00:47:47.909 --> 00:47:52.550
that. Yeah, yeah. And because of its composition,

00:47:52.630 --> 00:47:56.590
it really can help with dealing with after a

00:47:56.590 --> 00:47:59.230
wound, stimulating skin growth there, you know,

00:47:59.329 --> 00:48:01.889
nurturing it with that rich penethylic acid that

00:48:01.889 --> 00:48:04.929
can help minimize like some scarring at that

00:48:04.929 --> 00:48:08.150
point. It is very rich for that. On the inside,

00:48:08.210 --> 00:48:10.349
taking it internally, that's where you get the

00:48:10.349 --> 00:48:13.409
boost. Royal jelly, you can find it in tablets

00:48:13.409 --> 00:48:16.829
or capsules, but fresh, it has the same ingredients,

00:48:16.909 --> 00:48:19.230
has the same components, it works just as well,

00:48:19.489 --> 00:48:22.309
but fresh royal jelly is a quick, you get it

00:48:22.309 --> 00:48:25.449
quickly in your body. You can feel it very quickly

00:48:25.449 --> 00:48:27.829
come into the body. One of the things that I

00:48:27.829 --> 00:48:30.070
forgot to mention, and this is something that

00:48:30.070 --> 00:48:32.510
I haven't tried yet and want to try, take a quick

00:48:32.510 --> 00:48:35.170
step back to propolis, and that is using it in

00:48:35.170 --> 00:48:38.949
a diffuser. Explain how they work and what they

00:48:38.949 --> 00:48:42.679
can do for you. An Italian beekeeper named Luigi

00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.760
Fabretto created this. And because he was really

00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.559
interested, he knew that propolis was helpful

00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.420
for the immune systems and respiratory ailments.

00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.219
He found that the sanitariums back in the old

00:48:53.219 --> 00:48:56.179
days were often in the mountainous areas. And

00:48:56.179 --> 00:48:58.820
so he started researching that, realizing that,

00:48:58.820 --> 00:49:00.820
you know, there's actually a lot of resins in

00:49:00.820 --> 00:49:04.059
these conifer trees and these fir trees and these

00:49:04.059 --> 00:49:06.360
pine trees. And so there must be something in

00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.300
the air that's good. And so he was researching

00:49:08.300 --> 00:49:12.139
this and found that because propolis is resinous,

00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.179
base comes from resin of trees, buds of trees.

00:49:15.579 --> 00:49:19.920
He invented a way to heat the propolis so that

00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.179
the vapors of this propolis are what we're breathing

00:49:22.179 --> 00:49:25.420
in, which has these properties that would be

00:49:25.420 --> 00:49:28.019
very effective directly into the lungs. As opposed

00:49:28.019 --> 00:49:30.320
to going through the oral cavity and through

00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.980
the digestive tract and getting into the bloodstream,

00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:36.639
propolis being diffused into the air gets released

00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:39.820
right away. without destroying its properties,

00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.420
which is really important. So he researched this

00:49:42.420 --> 00:49:44.840
and did it with a number of resins. He was comparing

00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:48.340
it with resins as well as tree resins like frankincense

00:49:48.340 --> 00:49:51.380
and seeing if that had some qualities, virtuous

00:49:51.380 --> 00:49:53.980
qualities for breathing. Yes, it does, but not

00:49:53.980 --> 00:49:57.199
as potent as propolis. And so the method that

00:49:57.199 --> 00:49:59.239
they came up with was, I've got one right here.

00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.360
If you don't mind me just demonstrating it, it's

00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:05.840
just a device. But what's important is right

00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.980
here, where there's this little capsule of propolis.

00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:12.659
It's a little divile that is filled with propolis,

00:50:12.980 --> 00:50:15.639
powdered, pulverized, you know, pulverized, and

00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:17.980
then in this little heating element, it's like

00:50:17.980 --> 00:50:20.599
a little oven, and it heats it just correctly,

00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.320
right amount, so that it's not burning it, and

00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.380
it's just slowly heating it and slowly releasing

00:50:25.380 --> 00:50:29.349
the properties of that propolis. And so, the

00:50:29.349 --> 00:50:32.670
effects for pulmonary conditions like bronchitis

00:50:32.670 --> 00:50:36.719
and COPD and all these things, It's amazing.

00:50:37.139 --> 00:50:41.480
They did some studies in the 90s when they were

00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.079
researching this and they found that it had the

00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.260
properties of being antibacterial. They were

00:50:46.260 --> 00:50:49.460
able to reduce microbes by 72 % within three

00:50:49.460 --> 00:50:52.909
days on surface areas by just diffusing it. into

00:50:52.909 --> 00:50:56.909
the air. They found that it improved attendance

00:50:56.909 --> 00:51:00.530
in day school day nurseries when they had it

00:51:00.530 --> 00:51:01.909
running and when they didn't have it running

00:51:01.909 --> 00:51:04.630
in the classroom that kids were less sick because

00:51:04.630 --> 00:51:06.969
they're just breathing this in the air as it's

00:51:06.969 --> 00:51:09.170
in the room while it's in the room. And lastly,

00:51:09.309 --> 00:51:12.550
they also found that it also helped reduce pollutants

00:51:12.550 --> 00:51:14.550
that were present in like urban areas. And so

00:51:14.550 --> 00:51:16.769
they actually developed one for the car diffuser,

00:51:17.269 --> 00:51:19.849
which really is a great experience. they're hoping

00:51:19.849 --> 00:51:21.650
to bring that back on the market again, because

00:51:21.650 --> 00:51:23.630
they've had to make some changes to manufacture

00:51:23.630 --> 00:51:26.190
it. But it is a really effective way of getting

00:51:26.190 --> 00:51:28.349
the blood, propolis directly into the bloodstream,

00:51:28.449 --> 00:51:30.630
because just like you're inhaling oxygen, or

00:51:30.630 --> 00:51:32.389
if you're smoking a cigarette, where does it

00:51:32.389 --> 00:51:34.349
go? It's going into the lungs and into the blood.

00:51:35.130 --> 00:51:38.130
Same is true with propolis diffusers. I know

00:51:38.130 --> 00:51:40.130
we've covered a lot in a short amount of time

00:51:40.130 --> 00:51:42.940
here. Have I missed anything? No, I think we

00:51:42.940 --> 00:51:44.539
covered really everything there. You know, I

00:51:44.539 --> 00:51:47.300
was gonna suggest the last tag on the royal jelly

00:51:47.300 --> 00:51:49.320
was to say that, you know, if you ever come across

00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:51.760
a queen cell that you got too many cells in there,

00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:53.519
you gotta get rid of them. You know, do yourself

00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:57.539
a favor and break one off and eat it. Maybe not

00:51:57.539 --> 00:51:59.599
just the wax and all, but you know, dip your

00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:01.119
finger in there, dip your hive tool in there

00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.780
and scrape that out and taste it. You know, if

00:52:03.780 --> 00:52:05.860
it's fresh, you're gonna find it's very tingly

00:52:05.860 --> 00:52:08.780
and a little acidic, but you'll get a boost,

00:52:08.900 --> 00:52:11.860
huh? You definitely get a boost from it. We shipped

00:52:11.860 --> 00:52:14.340
some fresh royal jelly to a customer here in

00:52:14.340 --> 00:52:18.079
Germany and he took the economical rate of shipping

00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:20.719
it. We put it in a little pack and with a pile

00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.960
of ice around it. It went there to him. He got

00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.460
it there in about a week. It was the middle of

00:52:25.460 --> 00:52:28.440
summer, okay? End of July. He didn't pick it

00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.559
up. He didn't go get it. So he came back. So

00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:32.800
another week goes by while he's waiting five

00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.179
days for him to get it. He doesn't, like another

00:52:35.179 --> 00:52:38.139
week it comes back. I got it. So we're talking

00:52:38.139 --> 00:52:40.179
like two and a half weeks easily, maybe close

00:52:40.179 --> 00:52:42.920
to three weeks that it was in room temperature,

00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.159
ambient temperature outside. It still tingles.

00:52:47.420 --> 00:52:49.659
I consume it. I thought, you know, somebody said,

00:52:49.699 --> 00:52:51.960
is it gonna be good for you or not? I said, let's

00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:56.329
find out. I tasted, yeah, yeah. It's got that

00:52:56.329 --> 00:52:58.150
flavor. You might need to eat a little bit more.

00:52:58.150 --> 00:52:59.989
It's lost some of its potency, but it's still

00:52:59.989 --> 00:53:02.550
there. It started crystallizing, in fact, a little

00:53:02.550 --> 00:53:04.510
bit. A little bit of crystallization, like you

00:53:04.510 --> 00:53:06.409
find in honey. I'm going to eat it. I'm not going

00:53:06.409 --> 00:53:08.510
to let it go to waste. So if it's in the hive,

00:53:08.550 --> 00:53:10.849
you got a queen cell, take it out of there and

00:53:10.849 --> 00:53:13.829
enjoy eating that later. I mean, I even did the

00:53:13.829 --> 00:53:17.409
extreme point of eating epilarnal. That's brood

00:53:17.409 --> 00:53:20.340
larva. There are lots of places in the world

00:53:20.340 --> 00:53:23.440
where they eat the brood. It's a high -protein

00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:26.059
source. It's something I don't know that I'll

00:53:26.059 --> 00:53:29.440
be doing anytime soon, but why not give it a

00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.630
try? We eat oysters in France. I'm near the coast,

00:53:32.630 --> 00:53:35.230
so we got oysters beds everywhere. So, you know,

00:53:35.230 --> 00:53:36.730
eating a raw oyster, I said, well, the least

00:53:36.730 --> 00:53:38.429
I can do is just pop it out of my mouth and swallow

00:53:38.429 --> 00:53:40.670
it. So I take a lot of it and go, I don't want

00:53:40.670 --> 00:53:43.090
to chew on it, because it's really juicy. They're

00:53:43.090 --> 00:53:45.250
really quite... But, you know, some people actually

00:53:45.250 --> 00:53:47.730
will cook it in a skillet or something, but...

00:53:47.769 --> 00:53:50.909
What they do now, actually, is they blend it

00:53:50.909 --> 00:53:52.530
up and then they put it into a sauce to keep

00:53:52.530 --> 00:53:54.869
it frozen. But yeah, it's really a potent product.

00:53:55.469 --> 00:53:58.360
So that's what I do as a beekeeper. We're beekeepers.

00:53:58.539 --> 00:54:01.239
We're there with the bees. We're trying to stay

00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:04.059
synergistic with them, make them happy and healthy,

00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:08.000
and take advantage of the opportunity to be like

00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.800
the bee and eat like a bee. I'm going to mention

00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:12.780
one last thing that we haven't talked about yet.

00:54:12.860 --> 00:54:16.300
And that's because it's not... I hate to... try

00:54:16.300 --> 00:54:19.960
to classify it as a hive product but that is

00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.820
just the therapeutic aspect of being around bees.

00:54:24.539 --> 00:54:27.719
Yeah. There are lots of people that for PTSD

00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.119
and other things are finding that spending time

00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.699
in the hive where you have to be completely present

00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:38.559
You have to be calm. You have to have a zen -like

00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:41.639
atmosphere. Or you're gonna get popped all over

00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:43.860
the place and then it can be the opposite. But

00:54:43.860 --> 00:54:46.719
it can be really good for your mental health.

00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.360
So many of these things that we don't know what

00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.239
to do with yet. We know there's a lot of good

00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:56.079
to them. So my recommendation to beekeepers is

00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.760
take advantage of all this stuff. See what feels

00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:05.159
good to you. Use your own... instinct your own

00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:09.179
sense of hey what's good for me and get in touch

00:55:09.179 --> 00:55:13.159
with these bees and the beehives and be in harmony

00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:16.119
with them because I don't feel like we're taking

00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.699
advantage of them by being beekeepers. I know

00:55:19.699 --> 00:55:22.219
some people call it when they harvest honey oh

00:55:22.219 --> 00:55:24.119
they're paying their rent you know things like

00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:27.840
that okay I get it but I think we can be in harmony

00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.420
I think we want to help them and as we want to

00:55:30.420 --> 00:55:33.420
help them they're happy to help us at the same

00:55:33.420 --> 00:55:38.219
time. So that's my philosophy on the thing. And

00:55:38.219 --> 00:55:40.800
it's all about the love. It's all about the love

00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:44.019
of the bees. I love sitting by the bees and the

00:55:44.019 --> 00:55:48.199
beehives this late summer when it's fermenting,

00:55:48.260 --> 00:55:50.659
the nectar's fermenting, the pollen is there.

00:55:50.940 --> 00:55:54.739
The aroma is so rich. It's so, it's just nothing

00:55:54.739 --> 00:55:56.980
else like it. You could bottle that perfume,

00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.000
it would be a million dollar salad because it

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.409
is beautiful. That's one more thing we didn't

00:56:02.409 --> 00:56:05.429
talk about is beehive air there are a number

00:56:05.429 --> 00:56:09.079
of ways to get beehive air, whether it's lifting

00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:12.400
a lid and sticking your face in there. There

00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:17.199
are these bee beds now. There are devices where

00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:19.840
you hook like a tube up to a mask and you're

00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.380
just breathing this stuff. There are ways to

00:56:22.380 --> 00:56:25.599
do it. And because people have found that it's

00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:28.340
very, very helpful for them. All these things.

00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:31.099
Hey, John, thank you so much for being with me

00:56:31.099 --> 00:56:34.059
today. If anybody wants to reach out, how do

00:56:34.059 --> 00:56:37.659
they get you? BeHealthyFarms .com. That's still

00:56:37.659 --> 00:56:40.780
my business in the USA. I'm in France. And so

00:56:40.780 --> 00:56:43.500
English speakers can find me at HappyTherapy

00:56:43.500 --> 00:56:48.039
.com. That's H -A -P -P -Y -T -H -E -R -A -P

00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:51.039
-I -E. And I made that joke on an AP therapy

00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:53.139
conference one time. I said, what are you, everybody's

00:56:53.139 --> 00:56:55.920
telling jokes. Dr. Stefan said, have somebody

00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:58.079
tell a joke. John, you got a joke? I said, yeah.

00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.619
What do you call a bunch of beekeepers laughing?

00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:04.989
Happy therapy. I love it. All right, take care,

00:57:05.170 --> 00:57:07.730
John. Great talk to you, Eric. Thank you very

00:57:07.730 --> 00:57:14.369
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