Treating Hay Fever With Bee Products - Apitherapy with Dr. Stefan Stangaciu, Pt. 3

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in a world brimming with complexity few creatures

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embody harmony like the honeybee with tireless

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precision she dances from bloom to bloom each

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motion guided by millennia upon millennia of

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instinct each act in service to the whole and

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then There are the beekeepers, watchful stewards

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of this ancient symbiosis. Part agriscientist,

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part poet, they move along their hives with the

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efficiency of mow, levy and curly, tending to

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the bees' needs as best they can comprehend,

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and with the infrequency of a waterfall in the

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Sahara, sometimes running off flapping and flailing

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like a penguin on a hot sidewalk. This is their

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journey. Today, we're going back to Romania for

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the final installment in our series about everything

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apotherapy with our guest, the world's leading

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authority on apotherapy, Dr. Stefan Stangitu,

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MD. In parts one and two, we learned all about

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propolis, proper honey extraction for medical

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uses, selling honey as a health product. honey

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for burns, bee venom, and a ton more. And if

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you haven't heard them yet, they're episodes

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the two right before this, number 250 and 251.

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You might want to take a listen. Today we're

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taking a deep dive into how to use bee products

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for allergies, specifically seasonal allergies

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or hay fever. That means desensitization techniques

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through honey, pollen, propolis, and even bee

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hive air therapy. And if you haven't yet, subscribe

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to the show, please hit that button. Now we really

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appreciate it. Let's talk about bee pollen and

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allergies such as seasonal allergies. Is there

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any benefit there? Yes. Okay. So first of all,

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those pollen allergies, if you look to the detailed

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studies, they are caused mostly by those flying

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pollens in the air. They are those very light

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pollens. They are called anemophilus pollen,

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like they are pollen particles which have inside

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a lot of air. So they are very, very light, like

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pine pollen, for example. So these are causing

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most of the pollen allergies. Our bee pollen...

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coming from the flowers where it's a lot of nectar,

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that bipolar is heavier. And usually this pollen

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doesn't come into the nose like the anemophilus

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pollen. But now there are two big methods to

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fight this pollen allergies and very, very successful.

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One old method is to use honey from the same

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area where the patient lives. And because in

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the same area, there are this anemophilus pollen

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flying. And the bees, when they fly from flower

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to flower, know their body is very furry, a lot

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of hair. And in the flight, the bees are kind

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of contaminated by this special light pollen,

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anemophilus pollen, in their body. And when they

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come to the next flower, they collect the pollen

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from that flower, but they do something like

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this, they comb their body. And then they will

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get that anemophilus pollen too, which is like

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of contaminating the floral pollen but when you

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take that small amount of anemophilus pollen

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which is mixed more or less in the normal flower

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pollen and you eat this pollen or B products

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which contains this kind of pollen then you create

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what is called the desensitization. It's like

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vaccination because you give that allergen not

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through the nose Here is mostly allergic reaction,

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strong reaction. But when you eat that allergen

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in the stomach, the stomach acidity and the enzymes

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from the stomach will break down this allergen.

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And also in the large intestine, the flora will

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open this pollen. And then the immune system

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can analyze better this allergenic substances

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and can have a better reaction. This is the old

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system, like honey from the same area where the

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patient lives, yeah? And you start usually like

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ideally one to three months before the allergy

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season starts or before, you know, there are

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people allergic to certain plants, one to months

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before you try to get the honey from last year

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from the same area. And the second method which

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is unbelievable good, and this is the extraordinary

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for the beekeepers who are seeing us, is the

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beehive air. beehive air therapy. Now in Europe

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there are hundreds of beekeepers offering this

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beehive air therapy. It's a form of aroma therapy

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of aerosols from the beehive and it's an excellent

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opportunity and very easy opportunity for a beekeeper

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to go into this apitherapy real without needing

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complicated approvals or you know complicated

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corporations and so on and so on. If they say

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that they have a bee house where they can offer

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this beehive air, like they offer honey, beeswax,

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propolis, and so on. They offer the beehive air.

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And in this beehive air, there are very, very

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thin amounts of this anemophilus pollen. But

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the beauty is that the beekeepers, they use special

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devices which are put on top of the beehive.

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Inside, of course, when they take out the lid,

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there's special access. And they have a filter.

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They have a pollen filter. So when the anemophilus

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pollen comes through the entrance in the beehive

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and then goes to this absorption device, because

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of the pollen filter, the filtration of the pollen

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is made almost 100%, but not 100%. Some of the

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allergenic pollen will go extremely small amount

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to the air. So the patient receives into the

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nose and the lungs like homeopathic doses of

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that allergenic. It's exactly like in vaccination,

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exactly like in desensitization for B. venom

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allergy, taking an allergen in extremely small

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amount. does allow the immune system to calm

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down, to understand better what is this allergenic

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substance or product and so on, and then the

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allergic reaction diminishes. We know this from

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the experience. In Germany, in Passau, I organized,

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as I said, about 20 international conferences.

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And in 2007, thanks to some other beekeeper,

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he told us to invite to Passau, to our place

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where we gave the congresses, a beekeeper from

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Austria. This beekeeper, Harry Huitner, was offering

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already for many years this behavior therapy.

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And then it was so fascinating how he explained.

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We went to his place with two buses. and we saw

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at his place how he was doing. And you can imagine

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after that all years after this in Germany, every

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year, every Congress, some beekeeper would come

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and say, yes, I use the same system and I've

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got this and these results. So every, every year

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like this, like since 2007. And now we have a

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lot of experimental, but also clinical data that

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beehive arrow is working. And the number one

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disease which you can treat is allergic rhinitis,

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hay fever. That's from the beehive air or from

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the pollen or kind of either or Okay, so there

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are several factors here. First of all is that

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anemophilus pollen which is in much lower amount

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but then You are right, there are other components

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from the beehive, beehive air, which acts against

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the inflammation. For example, the French guys,

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they found out that in the larvae, they communicate

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with the adults and so on with special pheromones.

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And one of these pheromones is called methylpalmitate.

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And the methylpalmitate, when it comes into the

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lungs, is anti -inflammatory and antispastic.

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Then we have of course in the behavior all kind

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of volatile substances. coming mainly from propolis

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and from beeswax. And it was done a study in

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Dresden in Germany by a professor, Professor

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Speer, Technical University in Dresden. They

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analyzed the behavior, the components, the substance,

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the behavior. They found over 50 such volatiles.

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Now the reality is like more than 200 such volatile

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components are there depending on the area. But

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they were curious to see from where are coming

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they thought that they are coming mainly from

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honey but now the surprise was that they are

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coming mainly from properties and from beeswax

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and this is a beautiful information because a

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beekeeper which has a bee house for beehive there

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we is able to do like aromatherapy, apiaromatherapy,

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not only in the summer, like spring, summer,

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autumn, but also in the winter, because they

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can buy special devices which propolizes the

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air in that room with the, you know, these special

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devices, the electrical devices which are heating

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the properties or the beeswax and releasing the

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volatiles in the room. I can talk about those

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for just a second. Here in the United States,

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there's very little of anything going on with

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this beehive air. When I was at Epimondia recently,

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there were some companies there, a couple of

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different things. One had like a mask that you

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wear with a tube. that goes to the hive and you're

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breathing this air straight out of the hive.

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Another was a couple of companies that have a

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diffuser type device like you say to heat up

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propolis and then it puts it out into the air

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like someone may do with oils and that kind of

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thing. There are ways to do that. I think that's

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something that's going to be fun for a lot of

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us to learn more about. I've seen online a couple

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of these bee houses that you can actually go

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in and like lay down or just sit in there for

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a half an hour and you're feeling the vibration

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of the bees and you're breathing the air from

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the bees and it sounds like wow and so healthy

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and I've not had a chance to try that yet. If

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somebody wants to build one here for me I'd love

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that. But we'll move on from that. I think I've

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monopolized way too much of your time already

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Dr. Stefan. I appreciate it so very much. I want

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to hit a couple of other things before I let

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you go and then we'll get you back some other

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time to talk about more. One is Your website

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is apitherapy .com and people can go there and

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find all kinds of resources. You have some of

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your talks on there. You have courses on there.

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There are courses that can be done online. There

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are courses that can be done in person at your

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place in Romania, which I think would be awesome

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to go do. And so I recommend that people go look

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at some of those kinds of things. Just a couple

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more questions before I let you go. One is, and

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I think this is important because we're talking

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safety here also, your average beekeeper. Which

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of these, all these things that we've discussed,

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which are safe to do yourself and which do you

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need a medical professional for and how do you

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find that medical professional if you choose

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to do that? Okay, so the first thing to do is

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like every beekeeper which has any kind of disease,

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first step is to go to his own medical doctor,

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yeah, or to the local naturopathic doctor in

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North America. Why? Because the symptoms, even

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simple symptoms like coughing, for example, may

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hide severe disease inside, like possible like

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a cancer, yeah. So the first step is to make

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this physical exam, to make the laboratory analysis,

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and to check with maybe two or three doctors.

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And then... If it's nothing serious, it's like

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an inflammation, like a disease which is at the

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beginning. It's not very complicated. They can

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easily use all the B products. Ideally, it's

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to use fresh B products. They follow that principle

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with the dose, like start with small dose and

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increase gradually, like I showed that graphic.

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And then they can also contact me, some of them,

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when they have some complicated things they cannot

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solve, and I can give them by email more specific

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advices. But the idea is, one idea also to give

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shortly, is if the beekeeper is using in the

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treatment more bee products, he or she will have

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more effects than only one product. So one good

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advice I'm giving to everybody is to put in honey,

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some propolis tincture, some pollen, some royal

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jelly, some drone larvae, apple Arnil. So when

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you combine all these things together and you

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take gradually, the chance of healing is much

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faster. But anyway, it's very, very important.

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They start with these bee products, but they

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need to go gradually, regularly, like once a

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week, every two weeks to their own medical doctor

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locally to check the evolution, just to avoid

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complicated situations. You've been a beekeeper

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for over 25 years, as well as doing all of this

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with your medical profession. everybody that

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comes on the show, I give them an opportunity

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to talk about some kind of wild, crazy, funny,

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embarrassing or whatever beekeeping story. Can

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you think of one or two that you'd like to share

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with us? Yes, yes, yes. I'll tell you a real

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funny and unbelievable story. I was in the 2012

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in Budapest in Hungary. I invited to give a lecture

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on AP puncture. It was a conference organized

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by the Hungarian Apitherapy Society. And it was

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a professor from China speaking about AP puncture.

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Very, very interesting conference. And then at

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the end of the conference, one of the beekeepers

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from Hungary, he gave me a big jar of honey,

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acacia honey, Hungarian acacia honey. Hungarians

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are very famous for acacia honey. So I was so

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happy, so I said, oh, thank you very, very much.

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So I took this jar of honey, but my luggage,

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like check luggage, was already full with books,

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with other things. So the only place where I

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could put this one kilogram of honey was in my

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rucksack. Okay. And then I thought to myself,

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I arrived to the airport, like to fly back to

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Romania. And on the airport, I was thinking,

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okay, okay. But I cannot go with this jar of

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honey, one kilo. one liter because the customs

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people will say no you are not allowed because

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you only 100 milliliter take it away throw it

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away and i was so depressed what to do what to

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do what to do and as i thinking oh it's not so

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good to give my honey to these custom people

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they don't know nothing about apitherapy and

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so what to do what to do and then i decide okay

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i will eat it so i was having a whole kilo Okay,

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so I enter into a cafeteria. I bought two bottles

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of water. I sit on the table with my laptop doing

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emails. But in fact, I was taking a teaspoon

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of honey, then a bit of water. A teaspoon of

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honey, a bit of water. So I do this like every

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minute almost. water honey water honey water

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honey and after about one hour i listen to the

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this sound system come to gate for bucarest flight

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so when i look to the to the my jar i i ate in

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this one hour half of it like 500 grams of like

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one pound of honey in in one hour so And because

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I am medical doctor, I was medical doctor. I

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wanted also to check. It was first time in my

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life doing this. I said, okay, I will check myself.

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I will experiment on myself. Should I have a

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diabetic coma, you know, through hyperglycemia

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or maybe something like hyperglycemia or heart

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problem and so on. And I said, okay, I'm in a

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safe environment. I'm in an airport, international

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airport. If something happens to me, I go to

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the hospital quickly. so the big surprise was

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that it was absolutely no adverse reaction no

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stomach pain no headache no nothing and it was

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perfectly and the same kind of experiment that

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i did a couple of years later in switzerland

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i received also a jar of honey and it was no

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problem what is the explanation the explanation

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is that i took the honey with water If you want

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to take the honey directly as it is, it is too

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aggressive. Although you may have seen in Turkey,

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they have a competition where several people

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who eat more honey in the smallest period of

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time, like one kilo of honey, they can eat like

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in a couple of minutes, not like me in one hour.

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So the body has huge capacities of accepting

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the honey. Of course, the people with diabetes

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must be cautious. Of course, they should not

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do this experiment. But the idea is that if you

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take with water, and I spoke with a professor

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from Egypt about this, I said, Stefan, you did

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well because you took with water. when you need

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huge amounts of energy, you put honey in water

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and you add lemon juice. Lemon juice diminishes

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the glycemia, the glucose level in the blood.

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Then it's everything okay. You can drink one

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to three liters of such lemonade very well, especially

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in the summertime. So this was one of the funny

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stories in my experience. Dr. Stefan, I'm going

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to give you the last word. leave us with any

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one thought that you'd like to. Oh, thank you

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very much for this thought. So looking to all

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this, my story, my life story, the bees, the

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bee products, the beekeeping, it's amazing. And

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it's a pity not to use all we can learn or all

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we can get from the bees. So my best advice to

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the people who are looking to us is to start

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learning about the composition of the B products

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to know what kind of substances are in the B

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products, like this biochemistry. It may be a

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bit dry, but if they understand the composition

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of the B products, then they can understand the

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effects, the properties, like pharmacological

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properties, but just properties. And once they

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understand the composition and the properties,

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they can go like start flying, like they go,

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they can treat or prevent hundreds of diseases.

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And it's just a matter of knowledge. So they

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need a couple of days or weeks to study these

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things. And that's why for many, many years I'm

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offering this online course. So the people, they

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take this 100 lessons and they have all the time

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to understand every concept. Because if you add

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to this beekeeping practice, you add the knowledge

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on the health properties of the bee products,

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it's completely other story. And in fact, we

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live for two big reasons, to love the people

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and to have a better, better wisdom. And this

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can come also through the study of apitherapy.

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That's Dr. Stefan Stengetsu. Thank you so very

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much. I really appreciate your time today. That

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wraps up our series on Apitherapy and our second

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