Miracles of Propolis - Apitherapy with Dr. Stefan Stangaciu, Pt. 1

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in a world brimming with complexity few creatures

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embody harmony like the honeybee with tireless

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precision she dances from bloom to bloom each

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motion guided by millennia upon millennia of

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instinct each act in service to the whole and

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then There are the beekeepers, watchful stewards

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of this ancient symbiosis. Part agriscientist,

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part poet, they move along their hives with the

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efficiency of mow, levy and curly, tending to

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the bees' needs as best they can comprehend,

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and with the infrequency of a waterfall in the

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Sahara, sometimes running off flapping and flailing

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like a penguin on a hot sidewalk. This is their

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journey. Welcome, welcome to Be Love Beekeeping

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presented by our good friends and partners in

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beekeeping. Man Lake. Today we're going all the

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way to Romania for the first in our series about

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everything Apitherapy. Our guest is the world's

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leading authority on Apitherapy, Dr. Stefan Stangaciu,

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MD. If you've ever wanted to learn more about

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the healing properties and benefits of honey,

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propolis, bee venom, pollen, royal jelly, even

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bee air and more, I think you'll really enjoy

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hearing from Dr. Stefan. He and I could have

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talked for hours and hours, but we tried to keep

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it succinct enough to fit into two or three episodes.

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In part one today, we dig deep into the healing

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benefits of propolis and also learn the best

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way to extract honey. for medicinal and health

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purposes. First, I've just got to mention this

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lantern fly honey that's all the buzz right now.

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One person described it as, instead of the gentle

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sweet taste of regular honey, it's more like

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your grandparents cough drops. This dark reddish

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mysterious honey has been described by a professional

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taster as having notes of smoky, savory, salty,

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resinous, and lightly fruity. Some people absolutely

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love it, some just think it's weird, but no,

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really the weird part is how it's made. You see,

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lanternflies secrete a sticky, sugary substance

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after slurping on tree sap in late summer and

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fall. That's secretion. also known as poop, is

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sucked up by honey bees taken back to their hives

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and treated like nectar, eventually becoming

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honey, lanternfly honey. So if you're offered

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some new lanternfly honey, at least now you'll

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know what you're putting in your mouth. I am

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unbelievably excited today because we have a

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guest You all know that I'm interested in apotherapy,

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and we have today who I think is the world's

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foremost authority on apotherapy, and he is over

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in Romania, Dr. Stefan Stengetu. Welcome to the

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show. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me here.

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And I paused because I wanted to make sure I

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pronounced your name properly. Did I get close?

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You are very good, very good, very good. Thank

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you so much. Hey, before we jump into the down

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and dirty of really what apotherapy is, give

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us a little bit of your background so people

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realize your qualifications both in the medical

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field and you're a beekeeper too. Okay, yes.

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So I'm a medical doctor. I'm a specialist in

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family medicine. And I have also what are called

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like over specializations in acupuncture and

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apiphytoaromatherapy. So apitherapy is the B

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products for health. Phytotherapy is like herbal

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medicine. And aromatherapy, everybody knows.

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And I discovered the bees in 1991. When I heard

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about the Keepers having unbelievable healing

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successes, beekeepers who were not medical doctors,

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and still they got excellent results. So I went,

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I spoke with these people and I said, wow, wow,

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it's very interesting. So if a normal person,

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a beekeeper can heal better than the doctors,

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certain diseases, I said, this is something very

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interesting. So I need to study. So I went to

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Bucharest, Bucharest and Bucharest, it were at

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the time two big libraries on beekeeping, but

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So if a lot of articles and books on AP therapy,

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and this was in 1991, I started one summer long,

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all these books I copied, photocopied everything

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I can, I could. And then I started to put all

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this information in a nice order according to

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traditional Chinese medicine, because I studied

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already before that traditional Chinese medicine.

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And the Chinese medicine has a kind of thinking

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which is very interesting. It's kind of a mnemonic

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method, like Yin and Yang, the five elements.

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And then when you have in front of your eyes

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these symbols, they are like filters helping

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you to diagnose and also to establish a treatment.

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So after 1991, after I started to treat my own

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patients with apitherapy, at the beginning I

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made mistakes. For example, some of the patients

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I put too many bestings too soon, not detoxing

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the body, not taking all the other measures.

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So six, seven patients have had allergic reactions.

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Fortunately, it were not big allergic reactions,

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but still was uncomfortable. So step by step

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I learned and then I started to give lectures

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in other countries. And my strategy, if you want,

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was to, I was giving books or articles or knowledge.

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and in exchange I've got other knowledge on other

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books and other journals and so on from the people

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I was visiting. So now we have in Romania one

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of the best apitherapy databases in the world.

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I am now the president of the International Federation

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of Apitherapy. I was 20 years president of the

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German Apitherapy Society and I organized there

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over 20 international events with speakers from

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all over the world. And I'm also president of

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the Romanian Apitherapy, Phytotherapy and Aromatherapy

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Society. So I'm telling you this just to tell

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you that there are so many people in apitherapy

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all over the world. So I calculated over 100

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,000 apitherapy practitioners in almost every

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country, except Antarctica. In every country

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where there are bees, there are also apitherapy

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practitioners. During all these years, of course,

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I refined step by step my treatment protocols,

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my thinking. And what is amazing, every day I

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learn new things. So it's unbelievable. The topic

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is really huge because the bees are living beings.

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The bee colony is extremely complex and we learn

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a lot from them. Wow. The topic is huge. And

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so I hardly know where to start because there's

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so much to cover. I'm tempted to keep you here

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longer than we earlier agreed to to have two

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sessions come out of this, but we'll see how

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it goes. Give us an overall idea. A lot of us

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have heard of bee sting therapy. Some of us have

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even messed around with it a little bit, but

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I know that you have experience with other hive

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products. Tell us everything from the bee hive

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that you use. And I'm guessing it's everything.

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Yes, yes, yes, you are right. It's everything.

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And most people, they know about honey. And also

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one other thing, unfortunately, most beekeepers,

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they focus in the production only to honey. And

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this is a huge missed opportunity because I give

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you just a short explanation here. If you look,

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the health is more important than food, than

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nutrition. Categorical is more important than

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health. For the beekeeper who wants to survive

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on the market because of the prices and so on

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and so on, the idea to sell his honey as a food

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is a bad idea. If you look to the health element,

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the honey is very, very important for the healing

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properties like antioxidant, antibacterial, antiviral,

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anti -inflammatory, and so on, because it contains

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several groups of substances. And one of the

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most important is the one on polyphenols. Now,

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in the pollen you find like 50 times more polyphenols

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than in honey. And in propolis, you find like

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200 times more. So if you want to have a healing

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effects, pollen, bee bread, propolis are much

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more important than honey. And the price is that

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the sales of the beekeeper when they go on these

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other products. can give to the beekeeper enough

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amount of money to be able to survive and not

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only to survive to go to higher levels like to

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open for example we'll discuss maybe later a

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bee house for beehive air therapy okay now this

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is a short introduction there are some other

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mistakes the beekeepers are doing for example

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centrifugation the honey centrifugation from

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the apitherapy point of view. It's also a mistake.

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The best honey is the one which is like slowly,

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slowly pressed or dripping honey. And the best

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method is to have a sterile container. And then

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you have a frame. Then you make like small pouches.

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How do you call it? Like you sting each cell

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of the hexagonal of the comb. You need to open

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up the cappings. Yes, but you do it not not brutally

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like classical like all of them once just in

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each hexagonal cell you make one small or say

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like two small holes and the honey will drip

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slowly slowly here and the contact of honey with

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air will be limited and this is the main problem

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in centrifugation because in centrifugation A

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small amount of honey is spread with big force

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on the internal wall of this cylinder and the

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honey is exposed to huge amounts of air and air

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contains oxygen and oxygen oxidizes. So a part

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of the polyphenols of the honey which are antioxidant

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are destroyed by this oxidation. It's not a strong

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oxidation but still it's an oxidation. The other

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bad thing is that in the air, the air is not

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sterile. The air in a PRE, where there is no

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centrifugation room, the air is full of microbes

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and spores and viruses. If you ask a physician,

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no, not a physician, a physicist, how many dust

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particles are in the air, they will tell you

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that in one cubic meter, is there are like 200

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,000 to 400 ,000 dust particles. So practically,

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the beekeeper brings centrifugation, oxidizes

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the honey, and contaminates the honey. If you

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ask a specialist in microbiology, they will tell

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you that on these dust particles, every third,

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fourth dust particle may have a virus on it.

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So it's really a contamination of the honey.

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And the third very, very bad thing which is happening

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because of this huge contact surface with the

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air, the honey loses a lot of aromas, a lot of

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essential oils, a lot of perfumes. And these

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essential oils are very powerful antimicrobial,

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antiviral, anti -inflammatory. And you know,

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when you take a honey, as it is very fresh from

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the beehive, from the honeycomb, the taste is

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wonderful, the aroma is wonderful. But the same

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frame when you make centrifugation, and then

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you put in the jar, is not any more so aromatic.

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So the problem for apitherapy is that if you

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have this excessive centrifugation and if the

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beekeeper also is using a lot of smoking the

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quality of honey will diminish and as a result

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of this the healing effect will not be so powerful.

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So you lose time and this is not good to have

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it, to lose it. Alright, I have to interject

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a couple of quick things here. And that is if

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you're a commercial beekeeper with a thousand

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or ten thousand hives, it's probably not realistic

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that you can harvest honey that way. But if you

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have a few hives, it sounds like maybe this is

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something that you can do. Can I give the contra

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argument to this? Yes. Yeah, please. Yes. Yes.

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So. when that commercial beekeeper will get for

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his honey let's say 20 -30 % more money than

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before you will find the technical solutions.

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And the human mind is unbelievably creative.

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Now imagine that instead of having these complicated

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machines with the, like pushing the frames one

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after another and then the uncapping and then

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centrifugation, there are so many operations.

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Here it will be just like, you know, like acupuncture.

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Imagine a table, like with thousands needles.

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which looks upwards and you make a system where

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you put 100 such frames on top of this system

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with thousand needles let's say and then just

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a short tuck all of them once then a bit like

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this and then you replace all the this needles

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part with the containers and then you do some

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other things of course the dripping of honey

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will not be so fast like going out of the cells

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but the time to do centrifugation and also to

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wait then three days for the air to go out of

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the honey. And then you put the honey into the

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barrel. So like if you compare three days with

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maybe one hour, it's a big difference. The other

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problem for the quality of the honey, for medicinal

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beekeeping, we need the honey which has almost

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no bacteria. And now, to be very, very sincere,

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if you ask 100 commercial beekeepers, you ask

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them, how do you do, you start the centrifugation.

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Let's say at the end of the season, you got 1

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,000 beehives and you want to do that centrifugation.

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So they use these centrifugation machines. And

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normally, after each centrifugation in the evening,

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they need to sterilize the container. to wash

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with hot water and sterilize it. And then ask

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them to be very sincere. How many of them are

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doing every evening this cleansing of the machine

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inside? Maybe one in 20. So what is happening?

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So they do day after day centrifugation in the

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same centrifuge without cleaning it every evening.

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As a result of this, if you make microbial analysis

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in the first day, and let's say after 10 days,

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the amount of microbes in the honey grows, grows,

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grows, grows, grows. Because the dust particles,

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I told you, they contaminate the honey. So there

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are many, many arguments. So my advice, because

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we are on this topic, to the commercial beekeepers,

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at least for their own health, for their own

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family. Let's say they have 1 ,000 colonies.

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They can put aside from this 1 ,000 colonies,

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let's say 50 colonies to make for apitherapy,

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for health, for their own family. And then they'll

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get step -by -step accustomed, comfortable with

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these other systems. And then they will expand.

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It may seem early, but right now is a great time

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what? I know you're saying live bees, they never

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so you don't have to remember for a discount

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on everything so get your orders in early and

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save yeah just to give an incentive about the

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prices you know very well all American people

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all over all the beekeepers all over the world

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they know now about the manuka honey model so

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manuka honey a normal honey i would say a bit

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more different substances there but it's a normal

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honey and still the final price of manuka honey

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in germany in manuka honey form of tube like

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20 grams of manuka honey medicinal honey it's

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40 euro so 20 grams which is a soup spoon so

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if you made the calculation it goes to 2000 euro

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per kg of honey Okay, so why not to go into this

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direction? And because the health again is much

00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.339
more important than simple nutrition or simple

00:18:44.339 --> 00:18:48.000
food. Yeah, it's great marketing. Yeah, people.

00:18:48.019 --> 00:18:51.460
It's fantastic marketing. Okay, let's talk about

00:18:51.460 --> 00:18:56.299
propolis. Okay. Now, with the propolis, it's

00:18:56.299 --> 00:19:01.480
also a huge topic. The best things. uh in the

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mind when you explain also to the to the patients

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to the customers to everybody you need to start

00:19:07.380 --> 00:19:10.359
from the plants which are producing the resin

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and balsams which the bees collect to make their

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own propolis now here is an interesting correlation

00:19:16.740 --> 00:19:20.859
the trees which are making these resins and balsams

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or the shrubs mostly trees and shrubs they are

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fixed living beings they have the roots and they

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cannot move and it's a funny kind of saying when

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a tree has a disease cannot go to the hospital

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so it cannot go to the neighbor to ask for help

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so what is the tree to do when it has a disease

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bacterial viral and so the tree must produce

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its own remedies okay so in the trees are on

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earth for millions of years. So they went through

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all these glaciations and all this huge amount

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of years and they were constantly attacked by

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other living beings like bacteria, fungus, parasites,

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even viruses. You can say that they're partially

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living being for millions of years. So the trees,

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they developed a method to defend. And here is

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a very, very interesting aspect. If you compare

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the trees in the pharma industry, the trees are

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much, much more clever than the pharma industry

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regarding the antibiotics. The pharma industry

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is using antibiotics based on only one molecule.

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The agriculture industry uses also one kind of

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insecticide, one substance. And when you take

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an insect or you take a microbe, or a virus with

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only one molecule if you keep in mind that the

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bacteria for example has thousands hundreds of

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thousands of different molecules and the bacteria

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are very intelligent at their level, they speak

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together, they communicate together, they create

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all kinds of defense mechanisms. So one molecule

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is a big mistake. If you look maybe, you know,

00:21:07.460 --> 00:21:10.319
in the past it was a substance, an insecticide

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called DDT and it was against the Colorado bugs.

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Okay, so now you can use one ton of DDT and the

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Colorado bugs are laughing at you. What is Mother

00:21:23.569 --> 00:21:26.349
Nature doing? Mother Nature, in the last millions

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of years, when the tree is attacked by viruses

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or bacteria, they create these protective substances

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around the buds and also on the bark inside and

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also inside the leaves. And there is a cocktail

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of substances, extremely, extremely complex,

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with hundreds of substances, different substances,

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which are destroying the viruses, bacteria, fungi,

00:21:52.700 --> 00:21:57.319
parasites through different mechanisms. So this

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allows the trees to survive. Of course, sometimes

00:22:00.579 --> 00:22:03.460
there are bacteria or viruses which are very

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aggressive and may destroy some of the trees,

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but they will not destroy usually all the forests

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or all the trees. And now the incredible part

00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:15.839
about this, I read a study made in England. They

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analyzed this cocktail of substances which are

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protecting the birds. to various poplars because

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they understood, the beekeepers understood that

00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.359
the bees they like to go to poplars, to the black

00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:33.109
poplars. The Latin name is Populus nigra. And

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then they went to analyze the buds, the composition

00:22:36.529 --> 00:22:39.869
of these buds, like it were, let's say, 10 poplars

00:22:39.869 --> 00:22:43.049
in a row. They analyzed the composition of these

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buds, poplar number 1, number 2, number 3, number

00:22:46.009 --> 00:22:48.650
10. And when they analyzed the laboratory, they

00:22:48.650 --> 00:22:51.450
were surprised to see that there were differences

00:22:51.450 --> 00:22:56.089
from 3 to 3. It was not the same standard substance

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like pharma industry is using with the antibiotics.

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And then the even bigger surprise was when the

00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:06.519
same team of researchers, they went next year

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to the same area, they analyzed again the composition

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of these poplar buds, and then they saw that

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the same tree, which last year was having a certain

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composition, this year, like next year, it was

00:23:21.140 --> 00:23:26.140
another composition. So the intelligence of the

00:23:26.140 --> 00:23:31.329
trees is... In order to fight an enemy, I need

00:23:31.329 --> 00:23:35.589
multiple weapons, I need multiple strategies,

00:23:36.190 --> 00:23:39.589
and I need to change these strategies every year.

00:23:40.450 --> 00:23:44.109
So the bees, which are also attacked by bacteria,

00:23:44.230 --> 00:23:47.029
virus, fungus, parasites for millions of years,

00:23:47.450 --> 00:23:49.670
Of course, they need to have also this protection.

00:23:50.269 --> 00:23:52.130
And because they have a smell, extraordinary

00:23:52.130 --> 00:23:55.069
smell with their antennae, like 100 times better

00:23:55.069 --> 00:23:58.690
than the dogs, they smell and they analyze the

00:23:58.690 --> 00:24:01.670
nature around and they found out the best sources

00:24:01.670 --> 00:24:04.589
of such substances. And then they go, they collect

00:24:04.589 --> 00:24:08.250
these resistant balsams and then they make their

00:24:08.250 --> 00:24:11.069
propolis inside the beehive with adding some

00:24:11.069 --> 00:24:14.809
beeswax inside. So propolis, if you see it from

00:24:14.809 --> 00:24:18.279
this point of view, You understand the propolis

00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.180
is very good and has protected the bees for so

00:24:21.180 --> 00:24:24.900
many years. There are some very, very interesting

00:24:24.900 --> 00:24:28.599
research now in Minnesota, I believe, is Professor

00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:32.420
Marla Spiebach. She showed that a bee hive which

00:24:32.420 --> 00:24:36.440
has more propolis inside is healthier, has less

00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:40.619
varroa. So this is another element here. And

00:24:40.619 --> 00:24:43.119
then the beekeepers during thousands of years,

00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:45.559
not hundreds of, but thousands of years, They

00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.380
understood that propolis protects the bees and

00:24:48.380 --> 00:24:51.220
this was the beauty they started to use for their

00:24:51.220 --> 00:24:55.299
own health. So now we have a huge industry on

00:24:55.299 --> 00:24:58.670
propolis. There are over 30 -40 different types

00:24:58.670 --> 00:25:01.829
of formulations like you have eye drops, you

00:25:01.829 --> 00:25:05.769
have capsules, tablets, nose sprays for ears,

00:25:06.009 --> 00:25:09.190
for the stomach, even intravenous you can do

00:25:09.190 --> 00:25:12.769
propolis extracts, water extract, alcoholic extract

00:25:12.769 --> 00:25:17.269
or oil extract. So practically for every anatomical

00:25:17.269 --> 00:25:19.690
part of the body we have a special preparation.

00:25:20.140 --> 00:25:25.140
And then for the good doctors who are using apitherapy,

00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:30.220
using propolis, the art is to use the right amount,

00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.099
to use the right administration formula through

00:25:34.099 --> 00:25:37.400
what anatomical way. And usually there is like

00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.180
a golden rule, when you use more anatomical ways,

00:25:41.900 --> 00:25:44.299
you administer the product through more anatomical

00:25:44.299 --> 00:25:48.400
ways, you have a faster healing. Let's say that

00:25:48.380 --> 00:25:51.500
A beekeeper, they have their own bees and they

00:25:51.500 --> 00:25:55.200
want to, from a practical standpoint, use propolis

00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.980
or honey for their own personal health for their

00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:02.940
family. What kinds of things would it work for?

00:26:03.099 --> 00:26:04.920
And I should have asked you this about honey

00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:06.960
before we moved on. We'll come back to that.

00:26:07.339 --> 00:26:10.380
But for propolis, what do I use it for? Is it

00:26:10.380 --> 00:26:13.460
for a sore throat? What's it for? Good question.

00:26:13.500 --> 00:26:17.519
Very good. So for the beekeeper, the best kind

00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:21.759
of extract of propolis is the hydroalcoholic

00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:24.900
extract, which is called the tincture. And if

00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:27.039
you look all over the world, all countries, they

00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.440
use propolis mainly in this form. and this is

00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.119
correct because the scientists they found out

00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.779
that in order to extract these polyphenols the

00:26:36.779 --> 00:26:40.039
best solvent is alcohol. My suggestion to to

00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:44.660
your listeners is not to take those recipes from

00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:49.279
50, 60 years ago, because it was a recipe like

00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.940
something like this, like you take 20, 30 grams

00:26:51.940 --> 00:26:56.700
of raw propolis and you put in 70, 80 milliliter

00:26:56.700 --> 00:27:00.559
of alcohol and you put in a dark place and you

00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.559
let it there stay for three weeks and then three

00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.390
times per day you... do this shaking okay so

00:27:07.390 --> 00:27:11.250
this is the old old system now there are modern

00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:14.069
methods to get the extraction of properties not

00:27:14.069 --> 00:27:17.710
in three weeks but in one day even in one hour

00:27:17.710 --> 00:27:21.910
so these methods are based on the concept of

00:27:21.910 --> 00:27:25.289
like the question funny question is in that old

00:27:25.289 --> 00:27:28.309
books it was written three times per day you

00:27:28.309 --> 00:27:30.970
should shake the solution and my question is

00:27:30.970 --> 00:27:34.009
when i'm giving lectures is why only three times

00:27:34.009 --> 00:27:38.470
per day Why not 10 times per day? Why not 100

00:27:38.470 --> 00:27:40.910
times per day? Why not 1 ,000 times per day?

00:27:41.210 --> 00:27:44.089
Why not to use a machine which makes non -stop

00:27:44.089 --> 00:27:48.170
this movement? When you combine these kind of

00:27:48.170 --> 00:27:50.450
machines which are moving non -stop the solution,

00:27:50.990 --> 00:27:53.029
of course, the contact between alcohol and properties

00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:55.990
will be better, instruction is better. Now there

00:27:55.990 --> 00:27:59.069
is another modern method, a very good one, faster

00:27:59.069 --> 00:28:03.200
than this one, which I'm telling you. is there

00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:08.319
are devices called ultrasonicators. The ultrasonicators

00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.019
are devices where you have like a water bath

00:28:12.019 --> 00:28:16.240
like a container and below here is the electrical

00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.279
part which heats the solution. You set the heating

00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.400
how much you want to be the solution heated and

00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:25.880
then you can have also activate with the button

00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:30.329
the ultrasounds. So the ultra sounds are making

00:28:30.329 --> 00:28:34.089
this movement of the molecules and the heat also

00:28:34.089 --> 00:28:37.269
is the Brownian movement at the molecular level.

00:28:37.329 --> 00:28:39.450
It's also much, much faster like this because

00:28:39.450 --> 00:28:41.910
of the heat. So with this method, you can get

00:28:41.910 --> 00:28:44.049
an extraction of propolis maybe in one hour.

00:28:44.609 --> 00:28:47.450
And when you know that the extraction is finished,

00:28:48.029 --> 00:28:52.009
when you see that the solution has the same color,

00:28:52.509 --> 00:28:55.420
it doesn't change the color. like before was

00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:57.940
alcohol was transparent propolis was here and

00:28:57.940 --> 00:29:01.099
here so when the solution the color is constant

00:29:01.099 --> 00:29:04.339
and also when the taste of the solution is constant

00:29:04.339 --> 00:29:06.779
it's normally it's finished the the extraction

00:29:06.779 --> 00:29:11.019
yeah okay so you get this tincture from from

00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:15.519
this from this water bath and then There are

00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.059
several situations here. So first of all, it

00:29:19.059 --> 00:29:22.579
depends on who is taking the propolis and is

00:29:22.579 --> 00:29:25.359
there to take it. If it's a strong beekeeper,

00:29:25.940 --> 00:29:29.960
has not special diseases, it's no problem to

00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.000
take the tincture in some honey. Let's say 10

00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.920
drops of propolis tincture in a teaspoon of honey

00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:39.519
and then prepare separately some tea and then

00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:43.440
they can take it directly. If they want to treat

00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.319
the child or the woman, let's say the woman is

00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:50.000
pregnant or somebody old in the family, the alcohol

00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.680
from the tincture may be too strong. There are

00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.200
no studies, they say that alcohol in any amount

00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:58.579
is not good for the body. In this situation,

00:29:59.180 --> 00:30:02.019
We have the propolis tincture, like I have here

00:30:02.019 --> 00:30:06.299
this propolis tincture. And then I will put drops,

00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.119
one drop here, one drop here, one drop here,

00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.519
one drop here. So small amounts on a sterile

00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.920
plate. And then I wait for the alcohol to evaporate.

00:30:16.180 --> 00:30:18.839
So once the alcohol evaporates, and this is very

00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:21.740
simple, I don't need a special laboratory, then

00:30:21.740 --> 00:30:25.549
I can get this. extract if you say like it's

00:30:25.549 --> 00:30:29.170
called soft propolis extract or some honey some

00:30:29.170 --> 00:30:32.009
crystallized honey or you know a piece of bread

00:30:32.009 --> 00:30:34.869
or some more cooked rice and then you can use

00:30:34.869 --> 00:30:39.269
it internally. This is the easiest way to do

00:30:39.269 --> 00:30:42.609
it but there are other ways to do it if there

00:30:42.609 --> 00:30:45.569
are people for example in the family somebody

00:30:45.569 --> 00:30:48.950
who smokes a lot somebody who has the the skin

00:30:48.950 --> 00:30:53.640
is very dry they have less fats in the body the

00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:58.059
alcohol tincture will be a bad idea. But if you

00:30:58.059 --> 00:31:01.980
make the propolis not tincture, you do not use

00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:06.380
the alcohol as a solvent, but you use oil, like

00:31:06.380 --> 00:31:10.440
olive oil, sunflower oil, pumpkin oil, argan

00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.200
oil, any oil which is cold pressed, then you

00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:18.339
get an oil propolis extract. So this one you

00:31:18.339 --> 00:31:22.220
can use in the nose. You can use in any surfaces

00:31:22.220 --> 00:31:25.920
where the alcohol is not recommended, like genital

00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.319
area, for example, or you can make preparations

00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:32.700
in the form of suppositories or ovules. There

00:31:32.700 --> 00:31:36.960
are hundreds of possible applications here. And

00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.539
now to give you in what kind of diseases. The

00:31:40.539 --> 00:31:44.779
list is huge, Eric. It's huge. So I research

00:31:44.779 --> 00:31:46.960
the literature, scientific literature, all up

00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.900
in Mondial Congresses, all the books in over

00:31:49.900 --> 00:31:54.099
60 countries where I visited. And if you take,

00:31:54.259 --> 00:31:58.279
it's like at least 500 diseases. If you take

00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:03.559
just one thing, properties has about 70 useful

00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:07.559
properties. And let's say we take only antioxidant.

00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.519
or you take only anti -inflammatory, then if

00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:17.980
you remember on the names of diseases, all diseases

00:32:17.980 --> 00:32:21.599
which have as a word the last letters of the

00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:28.440
disease is itis, like conjunctivitis, rhinitis,

00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:33.799
glossitis, otitis, esophagitis, pharyngitis,

00:32:34.099 --> 00:32:37.500
gastritis. whatever enteritis and so on, all

00:32:37.500 --> 00:32:41.420
ITs, all from inflammations. And Propolis is

00:32:41.420 --> 00:32:45.460
excellent as anti -inflammatory agent. Why? Because

00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.859
Propolis attacks simultaneously many causes which

00:32:49.859 --> 00:32:53.299
create inflammation. So if the inflammation is

00:32:53.299 --> 00:32:56.880
caused like fire, like free radicals, like smoking

00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:01.240
or heat or a burn, propolis blocks very quickly

00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.980
the free radicals. There are hundreds of studies

00:33:03.980 --> 00:33:07.000
which says that propolis is antioxidant because

00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.779
it blocks the free radicals. Then many other

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inflammations are given by viruses and propolis

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is antiviral. Other inflammations are given by

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bacteria. Propolis is antibacterial. Other are

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given by fungi. propolis is anti -mycotic, anti

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-fungal, or it's parasites, malaria, and so on

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and so on, giardia, propolis is also anti -parasitic.

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So when you have this combination of antioxidant

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plus antiviral, antibacterial, anti -mycotic,

00:33:35.900 --> 00:33:39.680
anti -parasitic, practically at least 80 % of

00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.440
the inflammations you can reduce, you can eliminate

00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.619
them. The only other big cause of inflammation

00:33:45.619 --> 00:33:49.579
is trauma. When I have a trauma, a heat, bone

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fracture, whatever, there are cells which are

00:33:52.940 --> 00:33:56.220
destroyed. And then in this situation, propolis

00:33:56.220 --> 00:33:58.759
helps also, but through other very interesting

00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.519
mechanisms. When you have dead cells in a certain

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area, like after bee stings, for example, there

00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.900
are special cells here under the skin or in the

00:34:07.900 --> 00:34:12.000
tissue. which needs to clean the area. They need

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practically to eat the dead cells or the bacteria

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as they are there. And these cells are called

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macrophages and some of them are also neutrophils

00:34:22.099 --> 00:34:24.380
or dendritic cells. But macrophages are the most

00:34:24.380 --> 00:34:27.340
important. Now, if you give propolis to this

00:34:27.340 --> 00:34:31.010
area, but also you... tell the patient to swallow

00:34:31.010 --> 00:34:35.070
propolis or to inhale propolis in form of solutions

00:34:35.070 --> 00:34:40.150
for nebulization or aerosols. Then these macrophages

00:34:40.150 --> 00:34:45.170
get more power and then they clean faster the

00:34:45.170 --> 00:34:48.510
area of dead cells and cleaning faster that area.

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This is wonderful because the risk to get infection

00:34:51.610 --> 00:34:55.269
there will decrease too. So the healing time

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will decrease too. We can speak on propolis Eric,

00:34:58.889 --> 00:35:02.389
one week is not finished. I can tell any of these

00:35:02.389 --> 00:35:05.570
topics we could speak on for 10 hours and so

00:35:05.570 --> 00:35:09.289
we'll try to, listeners, we will try to keep

00:35:09.289 --> 00:35:12.989
things as practical as we can and we hope to

00:35:12.989 --> 00:35:16.329
at least touch on besides honey and propolis,

00:35:16.570 --> 00:35:20.250
royal jelly, wax, beehive air, be venom, definitely,

00:35:20.769 --> 00:35:25.010
be bread, be pollen. Let's Dr. Stefan. Let's

00:35:25.010 --> 00:35:27.530
jump back to honey for just a minute. How should

00:35:27.530 --> 00:35:31.610
I use honey? Medicinally and by the way, I recently

00:35:31.610 --> 00:35:35.349
had experience using it on a burn Why don't you

00:35:35.349 --> 00:35:37.769
tell us about that and some other things to use

00:35:37.769 --> 00:35:45.039
it for? Thanks again to Dr. Stefan Stangichu

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in part two. We'll dive deep into treating burns

00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.679
with honey, bee venom therapy, and a whole bunch

00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.400
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