Bee Truck Rollover - Rescue Effort & Viral Video

WEBVTT

00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:06.660
in a world brimming with complexity few creatures

00:00:06.660 --> 00:00:12.839
embody harmony like the honeybee with tireless

00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:17.699
precision she dances from bloom to bloom each

00:00:17.699 --> 00:00:22.420
motion guided by millennia upon millennia of

00:00:22.420 --> 00:00:28.800
instinct each act in service to the whole and

00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:34.560
then There are the beekeepers, watchful stewards

00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:40.500
of this ancient symbiosis. Part agriscientist,

00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:45.460
part poet, they move along their hives with the

00:00:45.460 --> 00:00:50.560
efficiency of mow, levy and curly, tending to

00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:54.219
the bees' needs as best they can comprehend,

00:00:54.859 --> 00:00:59.670
and with the infrequency of a waterfall in the

00:00:59.670 --> 00:01:05.549
Sahara, sometimes running off flapping and flailing

00:01:05.549 --> 00:01:12.129
like a penguin on a hot sidewalk. This is their

00:01:12.129 --> 00:01:23.810
journey. Welcome, welcome to Be Love Beekeeping

00:01:23.810 --> 00:01:26.510
presented by our great friends and partners in

00:01:26.510 --> 00:01:30.680
beekeeping. Man Lake. Our guest today just helped

00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:34.180
save millions of honey bees after their truck

00:01:34.180 --> 00:01:38.040
jackknifed and dumped over 400 full hives down

00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.159
a steep ravine. How did she and her team do it?

00:01:41.420 --> 00:01:44.480
And what's it like to have so many homeless angry

00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:47.379
bees buzzing at the same time that you can't

00:01:47.379 --> 00:01:49.840
even hear the other beekeepers yelling to you?

00:01:50.189 --> 00:01:53.049
That's all coming up but first let's just take

00:01:53.049 --> 00:01:56.150
two minutes to go inside the hive. This feature

00:01:56.150 --> 00:01:59.609
presented by Primal Bee. We have talked about

00:01:59.609 --> 00:02:02.870
the waggle dance before. How forager bees come

00:02:02.870 --> 00:02:04.950
back to the hive and tell everyone where the

00:02:04.950 --> 00:02:08.430
good flowers are by dancing on the comb. The

00:02:08.430 --> 00:02:11.689
angle of the dance points toward the food. The

00:02:11.689 --> 00:02:15.090
length tells you how far. Scientists just figured

00:02:15.090 --> 00:02:19.509
out something new. The quality of the dance depends

00:02:19.509 --> 00:02:23.750
on who's watching. Researchers at UC San Diego,

00:02:24.330 --> 00:02:27.370
the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and Queen Mary

00:02:27.370 --> 00:02:30.669
University of London ran experiments where they

00:02:30.669 --> 00:02:33.569
changed how many bees were paying attention to

00:02:33.569 --> 00:02:37.349
the dancer. When a crowd gathered around the

00:02:37.349 --> 00:02:41.090
directions were precise, but when fewer bees

00:02:41.090 --> 00:02:44.620
showed up the dance got a little sloppy. One

00:02:44.620 --> 00:02:47.379
of the researchers compared it to a street performer.

00:02:47.819 --> 00:02:50.319
With a big crowd, you can focus on your act.

00:02:50.780 --> 00:02:53.740
When the audience thins out, you start scanning

00:02:53.740 --> 00:02:55.939
for attention, moving around, trying to draw

00:02:55.939 --> 00:02:59.180
people in. All that extra movement throws off

00:02:59.180 --> 00:03:03.020
your routine. Bees do the same thing. When followers

00:03:03.020 --> 00:03:07.120
are scarce, the forager wanders around the dance

00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.860
floor looking for an audience. The directions

00:03:09.860 --> 00:03:13.039
get fuzzier because she's multitasking. The team

00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.000
also figured out how dancers know they're being

00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:19.680
watched. Audience members touch the performer

00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:23.240
with their antenna and bodies. That physical

00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:26.500
contact tells the dancer how many bees are following

00:03:26.500 --> 00:03:30.000
along. As one of the scientists put it, honey

00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:33.000
bees quite literally dance better when they know

00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:40.370
someone is watching. I'd like to welcome to the

00:03:40.370 --> 00:03:44.409
show today, Tristan Tartaglia. Hey, good morning,

00:03:44.409 --> 00:03:46.770
Tristan. How are you? I'm doing well. How are

00:03:46.770 --> 00:03:50.770
you? I'm good. My tongue is running without my

00:03:50.770 --> 00:03:53.430
brain, as you can tell, but we'll try to get

00:03:53.430 --> 00:03:56.009
that going here as we wake up more this morning.

00:03:56.050 --> 00:03:58.990
It's early for you. No, the kids have already

00:03:58.990 --> 00:04:01.729
gone to school. We start early around here so

00:04:01.729 --> 00:04:04.110
that when midday rolls around, we can come inside

00:04:04.110 --> 00:04:07.349
and enjoy the air conditioning. Yeah, it's a

00:04:07.349 --> 00:04:10.490
good time of day for us. got it well we're gonna

00:04:10.490 --> 00:04:13.990
have fun today oh this is gonna sound weird talking

00:04:13.990 --> 00:04:17.550
about a disaster But it is such an interesting

00:04:17.550 --> 00:04:20.250
story and I can't wait to hear all the details

00:04:20.250 --> 00:04:24.689
about this big bee truck rollover in Oregon that

00:04:24.689 --> 00:04:26.930
just happened a few days ago. We're recording

00:04:26.930 --> 00:04:30.750
at the end of March 2026 here and this is still

00:04:30.750 --> 00:04:34.290
very fresh from a week ago. You know what, before

00:04:34.290 --> 00:04:37.209
we jump into it Tristan, would you give us just

00:04:37.209 --> 00:04:39.990
a little bit of background about your beekeeping

00:04:39.990 --> 00:04:42.879
journey? How long have you been doing it? I think

00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.959
I started in like 2020. You know, right at the

00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:49.620
end of COVID times we were all like... home and

00:04:49.620 --> 00:04:52.079
this and that and everybody needed something

00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.240
kind of extra to do or not necessarily extra,

00:04:55.259 --> 00:04:57.519
but maybe something that brought them back to

00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.519
gardening or kick -ins or something that brought

00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:04.000
them back. And so beekeeping was my thing. I

00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:05.620
have a story about that, but I'll tell you that

00:05:05.620 --> 00:05:08.620
at the end. We just, we got into beekeeping.

00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:11.699
We ended up getting a mentor and joining our

00:05:11.699 --> 00:05:14.259
local club, Southern Oregon Beekeepers Association.

00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:18.269
And that year I won a ticket. Excuse me, I didn't

00:05:18.269 --> 00:05:20.350
win the ticket. My friend Jenny won the ticket

00:05:20.350 --> 00:05:22.209
and she took me because it happened to be on

00:05:22.209 --> 00:05:25.129
my birthday. So Jenny took me to the first ever

00:05:25.129 --> 00:05:27.370
Oregon State Beekeeping Conference. And I don't

00:05:27.370 --> 00:05:29.329
know if you've ever been to one of your state

00:05:29.329 --> 00:05:32.509
beekeeping conferences, but the vibe there is

00:05:32.509 --> 00:05:34.930
so cool. I don't know if all of them are like

00:05:34.930 --> 00:05:38.970
that, but Oregon's is like, hey, hi, everybody

00:05:38.970 --> 00:05:42.560
is like. there for bees and it's really cool.

00:05:42.660 --> 00:05:45.699
So that was one of my first experiences and I

00:05:45.699 --> 00:05:47.319
was like this is where I want to be. These are

00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:49.420
the people I want to be around. I've been to

00:05:49.420 --> 00:05:54.319
a few of them. My state one, ABF, Honey Bee Expo,

00:05:54.420 --> 00:05:57.160
even Appamondia over in Copenhagen this last

00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.980
year. And I'll tell you one thing, beekeepers

00:05:59.980 --> 00:06:02.180
are some of the friendliest people anywhere.

00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:05.540
Somebody told me recently it's because they're

00:06:05.540 --> 00:06:08.810
all nerds and so they all get along well. I don't

00:06:08.810 --> 00:06:11.550
know if that's the case. There's like half I

00:06:11.550 --> 00:06:13.189
think that are nerds and then there's this other

00:06:13.189 --> 00:06:16.769
half that are like just down to earth wanting

00:06:16.769 --> 00:06:19.730
to do that. You know like there's the educated

00:06:19.730 --> 00:06:21.509
and then there's the like we're just chilling

00:06:21.509 --> 00:06:24.050
here doing the thing with these guys. That's

00:06:24.050 --> 00:06:27.949
me. But I love that beekeepers are so happy to

00:06:27.949 --> 00:06:30.910
share information with each other. It's not like

00:06:30.910 --> 00:06:35.360
I have the secret to taking care of a row, but

00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:37.800
I'm not going to tell anybody else. No, it's

00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.519
not that way. I worked at a pool hall for 10

00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:43.259
years and everybody there was a hustler. You

00:06:43.259 --> 00:06:45.480
know, the old school hustlers, they come in and

00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.199
they only beat you by three points. And then

00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:49.759
the next time and you're better and they then

00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:51.519
only beat you by two points, but you still got

00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:53.779
a chance. Give me 10 bucks. You know, beekeeping

00:06:53.779 --> 00:06:56.579
is not like that at all. So it's really a cool

00:06:56.579 --> 00:06:59.879
community. I agree. And I'll bet in Oregon, even

00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:03.149
more so. Yeah. As you said, there's a lot of

00:07:03.149 --> 00:07:05.310
hippie dippies around. There's a lot of hippie

00:07:05.310 --> 00:07:07.930
dippies here and that is not negative. It is

00:07:07.930 --> 00:07:10.589
really cool chill vibe. For those that weren't

00:07:10.589 --> 00:07:12.569
there before we were recording, we were talking

00:07:12.569 --> 00:07:15.529
about Ashland and what a beautiful place it is

00:07:15.529 --> 00:07:18.310
and what kind of community it is. You do a bunch

00:07:18.310 --> 00:07:20.550
of cutouts. How many do you do every year, would

00:07:20.550 --> 00:07:23.069
you say? I do. I would say somewhere between

00:07:23.069 --> 00:07:25.990
60 and 120, depending on the year. And my cutouts

00:07:25.990 --> 00:07:28.490
are not always honeybees. Ashland is one of those

00:07:28.490 --> 00:07:30.709
places that will actually hire me to come out

00:07:30.709 --> 00:07:33.170
and pull yellow jackets, bald -faced hornets

00:07:33.170 --> 00:07:36.089
out with no chemicals. That's my shtick is, hey,

00:07:36.089 --> 00:07:38.329
I'll come and I'll take them out with no chemicals.

00:07:38.370 --> 00:07:41.089
And they love it. that. So it is a bit of a drive

00:07:41.089 --> 00:07:43.329
from here, but they're willing to compensate

00:07:43.329 --> 00:07:48.009
that. So Ashland is a great spot for sure. Okay.

00:07:48.009 --> 00:07:50.269
I'm going to get off topic for a second and say,

00:07:50.790 --> 00:07:54.870
how do you find the yellow jacket nests? Well,

00:07:54.870 --> 00:07:57.110
I don't know how you feel about cursing on your

00:07:57.110 --> 00:08:00.230
thing, but you follow the butt wads. You just

00:08:00.230 --> 00:08:02.829
follow them and you hope not to get stung while

00:08:02.829 --> 00:08:05.350
you're doing it. If there's a hole in the ground,

00:08:05.750 --> 00:08:09.310
you start digging. And you know that you've hit

00:08:09.310 --> 00:08:12.129
them when you get a second wave of them coming

00:08:12.129 --> 00:08:14.389
at you and you feel this feeling in the back

00:08:14.389 --> 00:08:16.009
of your skull that tells you you're going to

00:08:16.009 --> 00:08:19.470
die. You found the nest. They're really violent.

00:08:19.850 --> 00:08:23.490
I admit, I'm someone that would get out some

00:08:23.490 --> 00:08:26.250
kind of poison at that point, but you're paid

00:08:26.250 --> 00:08:29.230
to remove them. So you just what? Dig the nest

00:08:29.230 --> 00:08:32.389
out, stick it in a box or something and. Yep.

00:08:32.869 --> 00:08:35.370
Take it to hell and drop it off where it belongs.

00:08:35.450 --> 00:08:37.870
Yep I actually dig the nest up then I put it

00:08:37.870 --> 00:08:40.909
in a cooler and I leave the cooler open until

00:08:40.909 --> 00:08:43.990
nighttime and Then I put the lid on the cooler

00:08:43.990 --> 00:08:46.870
come back in the morning Vacuum up every one

00:08:46.870 --> 00:08:49.250
that I can and everybody needs to know like that's

00:08:49.250 --> 00:08:51.889
a hot zone for three days They are gonna be pissed.

00:08:52.389 --> 00:08:54.990
But yeah, we chemically free come and remove

00:08:54.990 --> 00:08:57.549
them We can't promise that we can get every bug,

00:08:57.629 --> 00:09:00.870
but you will not be having another brood cycle

00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.879
Where do you take them? I don't take them anywhere.

00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.500
They stay in that cooler until the next time

00:09:07.500 --> 00:09:09.659
I need the cooler and the cooler gets very hot

00:09:09.659 --> 00:09:12.519
in the back of a car. And if anyone sees this,

00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:15.539
that can direct me how to use them better than

00:09:15.539 --> 00:09:17.580
that. I know there are several places that use

00:09:17.580 --> 00:09:21.480
their venom. I just don't know how to donate

00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:24.179
the box to the people, to the right people or

00:09:24.179 --> 00:09:27.299
how to get that to them. But every year we have

00:09:27.299 --> 00:09:32.120
dozens of boxes or bags of deceased. Yellow jackets,

00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:35.700
yeah. I figure honey bees we save and we keep

00:09:35.700 --> 00:09:38.000
alive and we rehabilitate, but yellow jackets,

00:09:38.299 --> 00:09:41.840
I couldn't imagine them being around my property

00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:45.159
or putting them on someone else's property. No.

00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.799
No, they end up deceased, but I don't use chemicals

00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:52.100
to do it. So you're not saturating your land

00:09:52.100 --> 00:09:56.559
or your other stuff with chemicals. Well, I'm

00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:59.429
glad to hear you're not just moving them someplace

00:09:59.429 --> 00:10:02.250
else for them to live. No. We have enough of

00:10:02.250 --> 00:10:04.850
them. Yeah, we put them out of their misery.

00:10:05.370 --> 00:10:07.929
And if anybody can answer Tristan's question,

00:10:08.009 --> 00:10:11.529
because I don't know the answer. I know how to

00:10:11.529 --> 00:10:15.590
harvest honey bee venom, but from yellow jackets

00:10:15.590 --> 00:10:19.009
or dead yellow jackets, I have no idea. So if

00:10:19.009 --> 00:10:22.610
anybody out there knows, email me, eric at be

00:10:22.610 --> 00:10:25.679
love beekeeping dot com. And we'll disseminate

00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:27.940
the information. We'll get it back to Tristan

00:10:27.940 --> 00:10:29.980
and to anybody else that's interested. That'd

00:10:29.980 --> 00:10:32.539
be great. That's the community we have here.

00:10:33.019 --> 00:10:36.399
All right. Let's jump into the big fun topic

00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:39.360
that we have for today. How did you first hear

00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.000
about the truck rollover? So I first heard about

00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.259
it. It was actually a jackknifing. And I heard

00:10:46.259 --> 00:10:51.039
about it on the Rogue Valley Scanner, I believe

00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:55.330
it's called, or Medford. scanner, something on

00:10:55.330 --> 00:10:58.070
Facebook, scanner, right? And I went on there

00:10:58.070 --> 00:11:00.470
and I saw that there was this story. It was like

00:11:00.470 --> 00:11:02.610
pollinators lost, blah, blah, blah. There was

00:11:02.610 --> 00:11:05.629
like six comments and then it kind of disappeared.

00:11:05.990 --> 00:11:10.269
And so I assumed that it got taken care of. That

00:11:10.269 --> 00:11:12.950
was the assumption from most of the people in

00:11:12.950 --> 00:11:15.590
the area was, oh, it's an accident and there

00:11:15.590 --> 00:11:17.470
are protocols in place to take care of that.

00:11:17.470 --> 00:11:20.549
And it happened very far out and it's gone. But

00:11:20.549 --> 00:11:23.730
you found out that that wasn't the case. How

00:11:23.730 --> 00:11:27.370
many hives were on that truck? ODOT reported

00:11:27.370 --> 00:11:30.429
that the driver said there was 420 the night

00:11:30.429 --> 00:11:34.110
of the accident. From my beekeeping experience

00:11:34.110 --> 00:11:37.129
deductions, I would say that they had just been

00:11:37.129 --> 00:11:39.769
split because we found a bunch of queen cages

00:11:39.769 --> 00:11:43.409
that were still pretty fresh. So I'd imagine

00:11:43.409 --> 00:11:46.309
they went down for pollination, got their brood

00:11:46.309 --> 00:11:49.570
pretty good, and then split and headed up to

00:11:49.570 --> 00:11:52.940
the next field. So was anybody able to get a

00:11:52.940 --> 00:11:55.679
hold of the owners? To my knowledge the only

00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:58.320
time that the owners have come up was with an

00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:00.460
article through the Rogue Valley Times. I didn't

00:12:00.460 --> 00:12:04.279
even know their names or anything about them

00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:08.259
until that point. I know there are insurance

00:12:08.259 --> 00:12:11.379
reasons why commercial beekeepers often don't

00:12:11.379 --> 00:12:14.120
try to recover these loads. I don't know enough

00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:16.700
detail about that if you know no more detail

00:12:16.700 --> 00:12:19.389
on that. let me know. But it is a little hard

00:12:19.389 --> 00:12:23.110
for me to understand why the owners don't put

00:12:23.110 --> 00:12:26.070
a big effort into recovering this stuff. So can

00:12:26.070 --> 00:12:28.590
you shed a little more light on that? The only

00:12:28.590 --> 00:12:32.450
things that I do know, and I'm a very, I'll say

00:12:32.450 --> 00:12:34.990
it if I kind of know it person, so I could be

00:12:34.990 --> 00:12:37.330
incorrect, but the only thing I do know about

00:12:37.330 --> 00:12:40.769
it is that the owners didn't kill them, right?

00:12:40.789 --> 00:12:43.990
The first... option that Oregon Department of

00:12:43.990 --> 00:12:46.850
Transportation has and that any beekeeper has

00:12:46.850 --> 00:12:49.090
that has a rack like that is to just foam the

00:12:49.090 --> 00:12:51.950
bees to death. Bang. Done. There's no more liability

00:12:51.950 --> 00:12:53.809
of anybody getting stung or hurt or whatever.

00:12:54.450 --> 00:12:58.210
And then the cleanup happens. And so personally

00:12:58.210 --> 00:13:03.809
for me, I'm just saying thank you to Oregon's

00:13:03.809 --> 00:13:05.610
Department of Transportation or thank you to

00:13:05.610 --> 00:13:07.690
Oregon State Police or thank you to the owners

00:13:07.690 --> 00:13:11.299
for not killing them. because if they had just

00:13:11.299 --> 00:13:13.100
killed them, then this would be not an issue

00:13:13.100 --> 00:13:15.399
and we wouldn't even be talking about it today.

00:13:16.379 --> 00:13:18.820
So thank you for not killing them. The accident

00:13:18.820 --> 00:13:22.480
happened on the 17th. I showed up whatever day

00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:25.460
consecutively. I'm a small business owner myself,

00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.279
so I actually work in days of the week, not dates.

00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:32.419
So the accident was on the 17th and I showed

00:13:32.419 --> 00:13:35.600
up on the following Sunday. whatever the following

00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.179
Sunday was from that accident. My significant

00:13:38.179 --> 00:13:42.220
other and I ended up going out as a date. I was

00:13:42.220 --> 00:13:45.360
like, hey, let's go look and see what that looks

00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.279
like, you know, because it's only a two hour

00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:51.600
drive and it's right past some really cool stops

00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:54.879
along the way for visual nature seeing. And so

00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.440
we actually went out there to see like, did they

00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:00.919
scrimp the guard rail? Did they hit the tree?

00:14:01.620 --> 00:14:03.700
What's it look like out there? So that's how

00:14:03.700 --> 00:14:06.620
I found out about it. And were people already

00:14:06.620 --> 00:14:09.980
cleaning it up? I have been told that there were

00:14:09.980 --> 00:14:12.539
at least half a dozen people who were aware of

00:14:12.539 --> 00:14:15.379
it and did go out there and they basically took

00:14:15.379 --> 00:14:19.600
a box or took a queen or took something. But

00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:22.679
at that point, everybody that I'm aware of was

00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.080
worried about the legality of that, that that

00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.450
might be like a felony or something. And so as

00:14:30.450 --> 00:14:33.269
far as I know, nobody took much before that.

00:14:33.509 --> 00:14:36.350
I know that there were some people who were into

00:14:36.350 --> 00:14:38.750
getting firewood for a living that were out there,

00:14:39.029 --> 00:14:42.309
really pulling some boxes out of there. But nobody

00:14:42.309 --> 00:14:45.389
that was up there before me said, we got to get

00:14:45.389 --> 00:14:48.389
these bees out of here. And unfortunately, or

00:14:48.389 --> 00:14:51.730
fortunately as it may be, I'm kind of a, what

00:14:51.730 --> 00:14:55.190
do they call that? Toot toot, you know, let's

00:14:55.190 --> 00:14:59.450
do this. I saw it and my first thought was. I

00:14:59.450 --> 00:15:02.370
cannot stand for this. I cannot do it. I'm going

00:15:02.370 --> 00:15:05.549
to take a video and then I'm going to start writing

00:15:05.549 --> 00:15:09.210
boxes. I'm going to start putting them up and

00:15:09.210 --> 00:15:11.850
putting them back because what I saw was just

00:15:11.850 --> 00:15:14.610
scattered and I thought these bees are going

00:15:14.610 --> 00:15:17.669
to die of exposure. And Tristan, if you have

00:15:17.669 --> 00:15:20.710
some video that you can share for the video version

00:15:20.710 --> 00:15:23.370
of this podcast, we'll insert some of that in.

00:15:23.509 --> 00:15:27.399
Yeah. but just explain explain the terrain because

00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.000
it was a very steep hill that all these boxes

00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.779
went down right yes i've been told it was a 30

00:15:32.779 --> 00:15:36.259
degree angle and i don't know who figured that

00:15:36.259 --> 00:15:40.129
out but it's basically when you are looking at

00:15:40.129 --> 00:15:42.789
the ground, you're only looking at like one foot

00:15:42.789 --> 00:15:46.210
ahead of you. It is so steep. And so I think

00:15:46.210 --> 00:15:48.889
that led, that was part of the reason why the

00:15:48.889 --> 00:15:50.850
bees didn't get foamed was because they deemed

00:15:50.850 --> 00:15:53.690
the terrain too dangerous, maybe. I'm not really

00:15:53.690 --> 00:15:56.330
sure, but we're just thankful that they didn't

00:15:56.330 --> 00:16:00.149
get foamed. So you were tooting the horn about

00:16:00.149 --> 00:16:02.679
this whole problem. What did you do? You took

00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:04.700
some video and how did you get the word out?

00:16:04.820 --> 00:16:08.100
Yeah. So we went out there and it's date day.

00:16:08.340 --> 00:16:11.399
And basically I said, this cannot stand. I took

00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:14.399
a video. Just, I just panned once like this.

00:16:14.940 --> 00:16:17.460
And then I put my phone in my pocket and I started

00:16:17.460 --> 00:16:21.399
moving boxes. We did take a bee suit. So, and

00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:23.440
actually we took my significant others bee suit,

00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:25.779
my bee suit, and we brought an extra in case

00:16:25.779 --> 00:16:28.779
there was anybody there that like couldn't or

00:16:28.779 --> 00:16:32.299
whatever. So we started moving boxes. And about

00:16:32.299 --> 00:16:35.240
an hour later, a gentleman who I don't know if

00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.620
he wants to be named, so I won't name him, but

00:16:37.620 --> 00:16:40.860
he showed up and he said, yeah, we're doing this.

00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:44.360
Here's my hay rope. And so we just started moving

00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.820
boxes about half an hour later. Some guy in a

00:16:47.820 --> 00:16:50.799
big black diesel truck showed up and he said,

00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.059
are you guys okay? Is there a car accident here?

00:16:53.059 --> 00:16:55.120
And I said, no, we're just trying to save these

00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:57.929
bees. And he says, well, I did bees. and he put

00:16:57.929 --> 00:17:01.129
on my spare bee suit and that core group of people

00:17:01.129 --> 00:17:07.569
we just moved probably 50 to 60 boxes all into

00:17:07.569 --> 00:17:10.829
place so that the bees would hopefully settle

00:17:10.829 --> 00:17:14.390
into them. You have to understand it was so loud

00:17:14.390 --> 00:17:17.450
that we couldn't talk to one another. The bees

00:17:17.450 --> 00:17:21.470
frames were scattered all on the ground and so

00:17:21.630 --> 00:17:24.630
They had hidden under the wreckage and I would

00:17:24.630 --> 00:17:26.930
assume they tried, the queens tried to stay away

00:17:26.930 --> 00:17:29.529
from one another or they fought. I don't know,

00:17:29.549 --> 00:17:33.789
but you've got individual bees that wake up around,

00:17:34.009 --> 00:17:36.349
the sun didn't hit the spot until about noon.

00:17:37.049 --> 00:17:40.349
So it would start to warm up and then right around

00:17:40.349 --> 00:17:43.089
two or three in the afternoon, it was, you couldn't

00:17:43.089 --> 00:17:46.170
hear each other until about four. But that's

00:17:46.170 --> 00:17:48.009
literally all the sunlight they got was like

00:17:48.009 --> 00:17:51.250
two to four. all that powerful good like get

00:17:51.250 --> 00:17:53.910
things moving sunlight and then it starts to

00:17:53.910 --> 00:17:56.109
chill down immediately because the trees on the

00:17:56.109 --> 00:18:01.069
other hill are creating no sun again and so the

00:18:01.069 --> 00:18:04.089
limited time for them to get into a box first

00:18:04.089 --> 00:18:06.789
of all was ridiculous i mean i was i was walking

00:18:06.789 --> 00:18:10.150
down where i had put boxes and i would literally

00:18:10.150 --> 00:18:13.609
see queens getting balled on the ground i don't

00:18:13.609 --> 00:18:15.410
know if that's because they tried to swarm into

00:18:15.410 --> 00:18:19.430
the box and none of the bees recognize them.

00:18:19.809 --> 00:18:22.589
I mean, there's probably a lot of anatomy and

00:18:22.589 --> 00:18:27.549
logistics for bees involved in that. But my thinking

00:18:27.549 --> 00:18:30.589
was, okay, in a disaster like this, the strongest

00:18:30.589 --> 00:18:32.869
survive, but they won't survive if I don't give

00:18:32.869 --> 00:18:35.829
them this equipment. So we just lined the equipment

00:18:35.829 --> 00:18:38.569
up, took the feeders out because I figured that

00:18:38.569 --> 00:18:41.630
was dead space in the box that they didn't need.

00:18:42.190 --> 00:18:45.200
And so we would take the feeder out. put two

00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:49.000
of the emptiest frames or one big thick honey

00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:51.559
frame on one side and then move everything over

00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:53.980
and put one big thick honey on the other side.

00:18:54.339 --> 00:18:57.259
I figured that was more insulative than anything

00:18:57.259 --> 00:19:00.039
else. And we just stacked those boxes in what

00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:02.359
we call the train. It would be a tree at the

00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:05.200
base so that you knew that the boxes weren't

00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:07.500
gonna slide down the hill because otherwise they

00:19:07.500 --> 00:19:10.000
did. And then we'd put one box, one box, one

00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:13.390
box, one box, one box. We did about 40 or 50

00:19:13.390 --> 00:19:17.109
of those the four or five of us me my significant

00:19:17.109 --> 00:19:20.730
other and the two unnamed Was there a time that

00:19:20.730 --> 00:19:23.789
you said let's well, and I know a lot of the

00:19:23.789 --> 00:19:27.809
boxes were broken too. They were trashed Yeah,

00:19:27.809 --> 00:19:30.869
let's take the boxes at work We can't just leave

00:19:30.869 --> 00:19:33.630
these bees here forever and let's take them home

00:19:33.630 --> 00:19:37.210
find them new homes or whatever Yeah, we actually

00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:40.670
one of the guys had brought a bunch of nukes

00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.359
And so we just started filling those. He had

00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:47.799
a trainee or a mentee with him. And so we filled

00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:51.220
up the truck and the other guy didn't take anything

00:19:51.220 --> 00:19:54.500
that day. He just wanted to help. And I took

00:19:54.500 --> 00:19:57.960
one of those nukes as well. I also took a lot

00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:02.119
of just blank frames. I was like, I don't necessarily

00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.299
know where the bees are. And I didn't want to

00:20:04.299 --> 00:20:07.720
break the frames apart to look through the clusters

00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.150
to get to the queens. I didn't want to break

00:20:11.150 --> 00:20:14.869
that. I figured, no, let's leave the cluster.

00:20:15.289 --> 00:20:17.549
You can move it over and put that honey frame

00:20:17.549 --> 00:20:20.549
in, but don't break their cluster because I wasn't

00:20:20.549 --> 00:20:22.750
necessarily sure that they were getting warm

00:20:22.750 --> 00:20:25.730
enough to break their own cluster. And so I was

00:20:25.730 --> 00:20:27.690
against that. I didn't want to do that. We didn't

00:20:27.690 --> 00:20:29.950
do that. When we did transfer them into the nukes,

00:20:29.990 --> 00:20:33.670
we would grab three and four frames and lower

00:20:33.670 --> 00:20:35.970
those into the nukes without breaking that cluster.

00:20:36.109 --> 00:20:38.269
So we had no idea if there was a queen in there

00:20:38.269 --> 00:20:41.849
or not. But it just you can you is a beekeeper

00:20:41.849 --> 00:20:43.950
you can you can look at it and say oh, this is

00:20:43.950 --> 00:20:45.690
the cluster These are the frames and you can

00:20:45.690 --> 00:20:48.650
move that directly over and so you did all this

00:20:48.650 --> 00:20:50.690
in one day or a couple days or what? No, I did

00:20:50.690 --> 00:20:53.769
all this on Sunday night became our Sunday from

00:20:53.769 --> 00:20:56.670
about noon until about I don't know we worked

00:20:56.670 --> 00:20:59.509
till 7 or 8 p .m. And it was just got it was

00:20:59.509 --> 00:21:02.089
like not only are you exhausted because you've

00:21:02.089 --> 00:21:04.009
never well You haven't done this kind of stuff

00:21:04.009 --> 00:21:07.930
since you're 22. Uh -huh and and you're just

00:21:07.930 --> 00:21:10.789
tired and there's no you're gonna get hurt and

00:21:10.789 --> 00:21:13.230
so it's and if you want to come back tomorrow

00:21:13.230 --> 00:21:16.150
you better go home now and so we all called it

00:21:16.150 --> 00:21:19.490
and we had filled his nukes and I had one of

00:21:19.490 --> 00:21:22.990
them and he gave me the box I admit a pet peeve

00:21:22.990 --> 00:21:26.230
of mine is that it seems all beehives are white

00:21:26.230 --> 00:21:30.049
yeah boring old white and just when I get a pet

00:21:30.049 --> 00:21:33.029
peeve man Lake comes to the rescue with their

00:21:33.029 --> 00:21:36.619
new color collection The vibrant new line of

00:21:36.619 --> 00:21:40.140
colorful beekeeping hive kits designed to turn

00:21:40.140 --> 00:21:43.740
your backyard into a buzzing work of art. Each

00:21:43.740 --> 00:21:46.720
kit comes completely assembled, ready to add

00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:51.059
to your bee yard, but with a big splash of personality.

00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:55.380
We're talking Dandelion Yellow, Garden Green,

00:21:55.640 --> 00:22:00.420
coneflower blue, and even bold wild rose pink.

00:22:00.980 --> 00:22:04.039
Because who says a beehive has to be plain old

00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.500
boring white? Imagine stepping into your bee

00:22:07.500 --> 00:22:11.799
yard and seeing a rainbow of thriving hives,

00:22:12.059 --> 00:22:15.259
each one buzzing with life producing golden homegrown

00:22:15.259 --> 00:22:18.839
honey. And right now Man Lake is offering podcast

00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:23.140
listeners 10 % off color collection hive kits.

00:22:23.779 --> 00:22:29.160
Visit manlikeltd .com and use the code SHOWMETHECOLOR

00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:33.420
at checkout. That's manlikeltd .com. Discount

00:22:33.420 --> 00:22:38.259
code SHOWMETHECOLOR. Strong colonies simply fight

00:22:38.259 --> 00:22:42.000
mites better. They groom more. They remove infected

00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.319
brood. They bounce back faster. But all of that

00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:49.279
takes energy. Primal beehives reduce thermal

00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.579
stress so your bees have more in the tank when

00:22:52.579 --> 00:22:55.440
it matters. If you want to give primal beehives

00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:59.599
a try, I've arranged a 10 % discount just for

00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.609
bee love listeners. click on over to primalbee

00:23:02.609 --> 00:23:06.769
.com forward slash be love and use discount code

00:23:06.769 --> 00:23:10.950
be love that's all one word at checkout so that's

00:23:10.950 --> 00:23:15.269
primalbee .com slash be love and use code be

00:23:15.269 --> 00:23:19.650
love at checkout and again we didn't know if

00:23:19.650 --> 00:23:21.589
we like when we went down to the bottom of that

00:23:21.589 --> 00:23:23.589
hill we weren't sure like are we gonna catch

00:23:23.589 --> 00:23:25.329
felonies for this are we gonna be in trouble

00:23:25.329 --> 00:23:28.200
for this and i was like you know what You can't

00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.400
save something that's dead. They can argue about

00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:34.400
whether I'm committing a crime After I save some

00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.579
of these bees and I didn't think when I looked

00:23:36.579 --> 00:23:38.019
at it I didn't think I was gonna be able to save

00:23:38.019 --> 00:23:41.000
very many I didn't occur to me at that moment

00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:43.880
But I just wanted to do as much as I could and

00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:45.859
then I was like I know like six or eight beekeepers

00:23:45.859 --> 00:23:47.559
who would come out with me here tomorrow if I

00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:49.880
described the situation to them I knew I had

00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.839
taken that video in awe of the situation before

00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.319
I touched anything. So I was like yeah, we're

00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.039
going to be able to do this. And then Oregon

00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:02.339
State Police pulled over into the pullout. And

00:24:02.339 --> 00:24:06.079
I told my guy, I said, I'm going down there because

00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:08.759
they won't come get me. You go talk to them.

00:24:09.349 --> 00:24:11.990
because I'm not the person that should be talking

00:24:11.990 --> 00:24:14.450
to anybody about anything. I'm very gruff and

00:24:14.450 --> 00:24:17.910
I'm very opinionated. And so I sent him to talk

00:24:17.910 --> 00:24:19.410
to the police and I was like, you're going to

00:24:19.410 --> 00:24:21.809
have to come pull me out of this. And so he talked

00:24:21.809 --> 00:24:23.569
to them and they were like, no, this, that's

00:24:23.569 --> 00:24:26.410
fine. It's a salvage situation. You are, you

00:24:26.410 --> 00:24:29.029
are saving things as long as none of this gets

00:24:29.029 --> 00:24:31.450
sold. If it gets sold, it's now insurance fraud

00:24:31.450 --> 00:24:33.930
and you will be in a lot of trouble. But I don't

00:24:33.930 --> 00:24:37.269
think anybody had their mind on any kind of monetization

00:24:37.269 --> 00:24:39.069
except for how much it was. going to take to

00:24:39.069 --> 00:24:40.910
fill up the gas tank to get back up there to

00:24:40.910 --> 00:24:44.809
do more work at that time. I bet that was a little

00:24:44.809 --> 00:24:47.690
peace of mind to know that. It makes sense, the

00:24:47.690 --> 00:24:52.349
salvage whole aspect, legal aspect of it. Plus

00:24:52.349 --> 00:24:54.769
you're, I mean, you're not only saving bees,

00:24:55.170 --> 00:24:57.609
you're salvaging stuff. And you're cleaning up

00:24:57.609 --> 00:24:59.670
what really could be a lot of litter, a lot of

00:24:59.670 --> 00:25:02.569
big mess. And consider what happens to a fire

00:25:02.569 --> 00:25:05.430
crew that's dependent on that road to get through

00:25:05.430 --> 00:25:09.970
to the next fire and a fire hits that wax. That's

00:25:09.970 --> 00:25:11.890
a, I don't know how hot it would get, but I know

00:25:11.890 --> 00:25:13.950
it'd get a lot hotter than just timber. You know

00:25:13.950 --> 00:25:16.329
what I'm saying? That was a serious concern for

00:25:16.329 --> 00:25:18.390
me personally. I'm like, I can't breathe hardly

00:25:18.390 --> 00:25:20.609
any summer anyway, the wildfires that come through

00:25:20.609 --> 00:25:22.809
here. I know that they probably have systems

00:25:22.809 --> 00:25:24.849
and maps where they know that stuff like this

00:25:24.849 --> 00:25:26.710
happened, but can you imagine if it got like

00:25:26.710 --> 00:25:29.190
overlooked and they couldn't figure out why it

00:25:29.190 --> 00:25:31.849
got so hot? Like that would be, it's just like

00:25:31.849 --> 00:25:33.869
a little map for disaster. So I was like, yeah,

00:25:33.910 --> 00:25:35.329
no, we've got to get the garbage out of here

00:25:35.329 --> 00:25:38.390
too. It's not just about the bees, but at that

00:25:38.390 --> 00:25:42.089
moment it was definitely like bees first, wax

00:25:42.089 --> 00:25:45.660
later in my head. Yeah totally makes sense. So

00:25:45.660 --> 00:25:48.839
did you go back the next day? So that night actually

00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.960
I posted that short video to Facebook and I thought

00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:55.539
and I told myself okay I'm gonna post this and

00:25:55.539 --> 00:25:58.599
I'm not gonna post any kind of explanation or

00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:01.279
content or anything I'm just gonna post the video

00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:04.880
and say ew this is disgusting because the internet

00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:08.480
tends to feed off of negativity. I hadn't noticed.

00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:13.539
So I sat there on this adrenaline junkie high

00:26:13.539 --> 00:26:16.980
because I had just been I mean that was a lot

00:26:16.980 --> 00:26:19.500
of physical effort and the way that I respond

00:26:19.500 --> 00:26:22.660
to that is fight or flight I'm in it like let's

00:26:22.660 --> 00:26:27.680
go and so my body was tired but my mind was so

00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:31.180
there's no other word for it I was I was high

00:26:31.180 --> 00:26:33.519
off of that feeling all of that adrenaline all

00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.339
of that work that I had just performed and so

00:26:36.339 --> 00:26:40.109
I posted it to the internet And I sat there responding

00:26:40.109 --> 00:26:42.549
to every comment because people were like, well,

00:26:42.650 --> 00:26:45.509
what happened without context? This is AI. That

00:26:45.509 --> 00:26:47.869
looks like a bear. That looks like a hurricane.

00:26:48.430 --> 00:26:50.750
Leave the bees alone. They'll be fine. And I

00:26:50.750 --> 00:26:53.089
would go through there and say it was a semi

00:26:53.089 --> 00:26:55.589
-truck accident. And the key is that you have

00:26:55.589 --> 00:26:58.349
to have at least six words in your comment for

00:26:58.349 --> 00:27:00.369
the algorithm to care about. You can't just say

00:27:00.369 --> 00:27:03.680
bees, bear, buh -buh. You have to like... you

00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:05.980
have to give it some context. So I was literally

00:27:05.980 --> 00:27:08.960
just responding to these people to get the algorithm

00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:12.160
to pick it up because I wanted my local people

00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.019
to see it and come out and help. But I didn't

00:27:15.019 --> 00:27:17.940
think to say that. The first video that I put

00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:22.740
out was just this raw. This happened. This is

00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:26.380
where it's at. And I didn't think to say, I'll

00:27:26.380 --> 00:27:29.380
be going out there tomorrow to deal with it.

00:27:29.710 --> 00:27:33.009
And that was, if you are responding to a disaster

00:27:33.009 --> 00:27:36.690
and you're posting it to social media, make sure

00:27:36.690 --> 00:27:40.650
that you tell them this is happening now and

00:27:40.650 --> 00:27:42.450
you can still help. Otherwise they're going to

00:27:42.450 --> 00:27:45.069
look at it. And I just learned about this yesterday

00:27:45.069 --> 00:27:48.170
from my friend, Amanda Metcalf. She says it's

00:27:48.170 --> 00:27:51.630
called bystander apathy. It's when somebody,

00:27:51.630 --> 00:27:53.670
it looks at a situation that's happening and

00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:56.309
says, Oh, there's nothing I can do to help. And

00:27:56.309 --> 00:27:58.509
someone else watches that person feel that way.

00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:01.039
and it excuses them from any accountability,

00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.279
roughly. That's the rough definition of it as

00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.299
I took it. So unfortunately, these people didn't

00:28:08.299 --> 00:28:10.640
realize that this was an ongoing right now help

00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.759
situation. So I responded to all those comments.

00:28:14.380 --> 00:28:17.140
I think I had like 600 ,000 views that night

00:28:17.140 --> 00:28:20.940
on that video alone when I went to bed. When

00:28:20.940 --> 00:28:25.480
I woke up, it was 1 .8 million. And was that

00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:29.859
just posted on Facebook or elsewhere? I did not

00:28:29.859 --> 00:28:33.079
have TikTok. I didn't have anything else. I think

00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.680
it links to my Instagram automatically, but then

00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:38.059
I went back and looked later and it didn't for

00:28:38.059 --> 00:28:41.160
whatever reason. I am not a tech person. People

00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:43.579
have asked me, did you want to go viral? No.

00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:47.119
What I wanted was people in my area to see and

00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:50.940
respond. But when I woke up, it was 1 .8 million

00:28:50.940 --> 00:28:54.690
views. So what did I do? I sat there and responded

00:28:54.690 --> 00:28:59.609
to every comment because I wanted people to know,

00:28:59.789 --> 00:29:01.750
you know, this has happened. Help me, help me,

00:29:01.769 --> 00:29:04.950
help me. And then I left. I left and went back

00:29:04.950 --> 00:29:08.769
out there. I had my friend Teresa. She's amazing.

00:29:09.329 --> 00:29:11.849
She's a little bit elderly and yet not elderly.

00:29:11.910 --> 00:29:15.130
She's a little bit older. And yet she, I told

00:29:15.130 --> 00:29:16.950
her, I was like, my arms hurt so much. I don't

00:29:16.950 --> 00:29:18.930
think I can drive. Can you drive me out there?

00:29:18.930 --> 00:29:21.490
And she was like, absolutely. And we went out

00:29:21.490 --> 00:29:25.339
there and we, boxes up the hill all day up the

00:29:25.339 --> 00:29:27.920
hill because I wanted to get them into the sun.

00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:30.259
You got to understand the bottom of that canyon

00:29:30.259 --> 00:29:33.119
does not get sun at this time of year at all

00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.740
because the trees the way that everything works

00:29:35.740 --> 00:29:39.000
the sun does not hit it and so I thought well

00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:42.559
if I can get the equipment from the bottom to

00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.319
the top and get those feeders out and get that

00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.680
honey on the sides they have a chance of making

00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.319
it overnight themselves. You got to take the

00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:54.140
lids and put the lids on We had no bottoms, but

00:29:54.140 --> 00:29:57.059
we were kind of sifting them into the dirt and

00:29:57.059 --> 00:29:59.880
then putting lids on them or stacking honey frames

00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:02.940
on top of them to give as much insulation as

00:30:02.940 --> 00:30:04.539
we possibly could because, you know, there's

00:30:04.539 --> 00:30:09.200
420 boxes. That means there's only 420 lids and

00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.240
half of them are destroyed. So we were just taking

00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.420
wax foundations that had honey on them out and

00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:18.119
placing them on top. And you're doing that because

00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.509
it's getting real cold at night, right? It gets

00:30:20.509 --> 00:30:23.430
so cold at four or five p .m. and I'm working

00:30:23.430 --> 00:30:26.710
my butt off and I'm still starting to like chatter

00:30:26.710 --> 00:30:29.190
a little bit. I don't know exactly how cold we

00:30:29.190 --> 00:30:31.069
should totally find out. I tried not to think

00:30:31.069 --> 00:30:32.869
about it while I was out there. You know, I just

00:30:32.869 --> 00:30:35.069
tried to like don't think about the negative

00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:37.069
Nancy's. Don't think about anything negative.

00:30:37.250 --> 00:30:39.609
Don't I mean, I came home and my guy said something

00:30:39.609 --> 00:30:42.230
about school and how they had just done something

00:30:42.230 --> 00:30:44.390
with our kid. And I was like, I can't hear anything

00:30:44.390 --> 00:30:47.210
negative right now. I just have to keep going.

00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.240
Otherwise, I can't do it. So, and he was very

00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:52.319
supportive about that turned around. We did.

00:30:52.420 --> 00:30:54.819
We were positive with it. Every comment you can

00:30:54.819 --> 00:30:58.519
see on my Facebook, I'm either like snarky, which

00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:01.099
to me is positive. Even if it isn't, even if

00:31:01.099 --> 00:31:03.259
it's a negative response, it, it lights up my

00:31:03.259 --> 00:31:06.880
brain or like, thank you. Please help get the

00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:09.960
word out. And so that night I made more videos

00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:14.700
and I posted saying tomorrow, please come help.

00:31:15.789 --> 00:31:18.069
That's what you have to do. You can't just say

00:31:18.069 --> 00:31:20.670
look at this disaster. You have to say look at

00:31:20.670 --> 00:31:22.869
this disaster I'm cleaning it up tomorrow on

00:31:22.869 --> 00:31:25.730
this day at this time. That's what will get people

00:31:25.730 --> 00:31:28.789
out there And how many people showed up when

00:31:28.789 --> 00:31:31.150
Teresa took me out there the day after the video.

00:31:31.509 --> 00:31:35.890
It was just us the next day 50 plus people showed

00:31:35.890 --> 00:31:38.670
up I would say I couldn't count them because

00:31:38.670 --> 00:31:40.509
I was at the very bottom of the hill and it's

00:31:40.509 --> 00:31:44.089
hard to See? But I was sitting there watching

00:31:44.089 --> 00:31:47.210
more equipment move than I had been able to move

00:31:47.210 --> 00:31:50.890
in an entire day happen in 10 minutes. We were

00:31:50.890 --> 00:31:54.289
daisy chaining like crazy. Everybody was there

00:31:54.289 --> 00:31:58.849
to help. Nobody was there to be persnickety or

00:31:58.849 --> 00:32:02.309
stingy or I mean it was just this and the people

00:32:02.309 --> 00:32:05.490
who showed up were amazing. And nobody's there

00:32:05.490 --> 00:32:07.609
to get paid either. They're just trying to help

00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:10.650
out the beat. spent 40 bucks in gas to get there.

00:32:10.750 --> 00:32:12.950
It's not about that at that point. At that point

00:32:12.950 --> 00:32:15.470
it's, and there's a lot of people saying like,

00:32:16.289 --> 00:32:17.970
oh, you're not going to be able to save them.

00:32:18.089 --> 00:32:20.349
They're getting too cold. Maybe they're infertile

00:32:20.349 --> 00:32:24.470
now. And it's like, yeah, but a worker bee doesn't

00:32:24.470 --> 00:32:27.009
know that she's infertile. She just knows she

00:32:27.009 --> 00:32:29.130
has a job to do and she wants to do it. And we

00:32:29.130 --> 00:32:32.390
saved like probably millions of those individual

00:32:32.390 --> 00:32:35.410
worker bees. And maybe that doesn't count too.

00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.099
everyone else, but it counted everyone on that

00:32:38.099 --> 00:32:41.440
hill. Everyone on that hill cared that we, every

00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:44.140
bee we could save, we were saving. So it might

00:32:44.140 --> 00:32:48.099
seem ridiculous to the hive mind, but we cared

00:32:48.099 --> 00:32:51.160
about that. We were like, you know what? We're,

00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.819
we're saving that bee cared, that bee wanted

00:32:53.819 --> 00:32:56.839
to live. So we got them up to the top of the

00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:01.019
hill and it was pretty amazing. Wow. I appreciate

00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:03.880
you doing that. The last time that we had a truck

00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.759
roll over like that, around where I am and it

00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.500
was about it was only about 20 miles from me

00:33:10.500 --> 00:33:15.339
the highway patrol and it was along a major interstate

00:33:15.339 --> 00:33:19.019
corridor yeah and the highway patrol put out

00:33:19.019 --> 00:33:22.819
a notice even if you're a beekeeper do not come

00:33:22.819 --> 00:33:26.279
to try to help we don't want other people here

00:33:26.410 --> 00:33:29.470
Yeah, I can imagine why. I mean, it's a huge

00:33:29.470 --> 00:33:32.250
liability, probably for the insurance company.

00:33:32.789 --> 00:33:34.809
Honestly, we were probably a huge liability up

00:33:34.809 --> 00:33:36.569
on that mountain, too. I do want to point out

00:33:36.569 --> 00:33:39.809
no one got hurt. Everybody was very careful with

00:33:39.809 --> 00:33:42.569
each other. We were all very aware of the situation.

00:33:43.450 --> 00:33:46.009
And beekeepers are tough, man. We were out there

00:33:46.009 --> 00:33:48.930
to get the job done and we did. Tough nerds,

00:33:48.990 --> 00:33:51.250
right? That's right. Again, I appreciate that

00:33:51.250 --> 00:33:53.930
you did it. It was our pleasure. I have a question.

00:33:54.230 --> 00:33:57.740
I want everybody listening. to put themselves

00:33:57.740 --> 00:34:01.079
into your shoes for a minute, into your bee suit

00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.660
for a minute. I talked to somebody else about

00:34:03.660 --> 00:34:07.460
a year ago that was part of one of these rescue

00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:11.880
operations and he said it was exhausting in a

00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.480
couple of ways. One was you're not used to the

00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.739
sound of that many bees. You mentioned how loud

00:34:17.739 --> 00:34:22.159
it got. Another was he and everybody else that

00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.179
was working on the cleanup, I think he said there

00:34:24.179 --> 00:34:27.179
were six or eight people, They weren't down a

00:34:27.179 --> 00:34:29.760
steep hill like you or this was just really on

00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.739
the side of a road You're lifting a lot of boxes

00:34:32.739 --> 00:34:35.280
You're lifting a lot of weight and even though

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.159
they were very careful. They took a lot of stings

00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.000
They they duct tape their zippers and their cuffs

00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.039
and did all that kind of stuff and they still

00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:47.380
took a lot of stings You mentioned the adrenaline

00:34:47.380 --> 00:34:51.360
and the sound how were you feeling in the middle

00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:55.159
of all this? I have experience with yellow jackets.

00:34:55.420 --> 00:35:00.340
Yellow jackets will find any hole and they will

00:35:00.340 --> 00:35:04.039
all go into it and then they will line up on

00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:08.440
your body and wait and start synchronized stinging

00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.500
sessions. They're horrible. Honey bees do not

00:35:12.500 --> 00:35:16.340
do that. If you are well suited, if you have

00:35:16.340 --> 00:35:19.800
the proper equipment, I did not take one sting.

00:35:20.780 --> 00:35:25.659
Not one. I wore that. I didn't take a single

00:35:25.659 --> 00:35:28.159
sting. When I go to my extractions, I don't take

00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:32.019
a single sting. When I go to do yellow jackets,

00:35:32.619 --> 00:35:37.079
duct tape is my friend. The only time that I

00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.260
got stung in this whole thing was at the end

00:35:40.260 --> 00:35:42.400
when I had taken my glove off up at the top.

00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.900
It was after the incident as far as I'm concerned.

00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:48.460
I wore that. and it stopped me from getting stung

00:35:48.460 --> 00:35:52.460
and I use that when I'm doing anything and then

00:35:52.460 --> 00:35:55.860
also to be aware if you are doing bald -faced

00:35:55.860 --> 00:35:59.360
hornets you have to wear eye protection as well

00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.960
because they can actually spit venom at you out

00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.480
of their whatever orifice that is and they're

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.219
pretty good too my glasses get wet with venom

00:36:10.590 --> 00:36:13.469
What do bald -faced hornets look like compared

00:36:13.469 --> 00:36:16.750
to other hornets, wasps, yellow jackets? They

00:36:16.750 --> 00:36:20.050
all look a lot alike, but they sound like bombers.

00:36:20.809 --> 00:36:23.570
Instead of little jets. Yellow jackets are like

00:36:23.570 --> 00:36:26.050
jets. Honey bees are like commercial planes.

00:36:28.289 --> 00:36:30.849
And bald -faced hornets are like bombers. They

00:36:30.849 --> 00:36:36.610
are just... They're huge. And they don't care

00:36:36.610 --> 00:36:39.730
about you. Until you know, they're the ones that

00:36:39.730 --> 00:36:42.389
the little kids throw a rock and the little kid

00:36:42.389 --> 00:36:45.570
ends up deceased It's those are the ones because

00:36:45.570 --> 00:36:48.610
they come out and they are going to kill you.

00:36:48.610 --> 00:36:51.309
It's it's intense. It's gnarly It's an adrenaline

00:36:51.309 --> 00:36:54.170
rush and at this point I've done enough bald

00:36:54.170 --> 00:36:56.849
-faced hornist extractions That I actually don't

00:36:56.849 --> 00:36:59.250
mind them because you can sneak up on them and

00:36:59.250 --> 00:37:02.429
wrap a bag around and tie it off real quick versus

00:37:02.429 --> 00:37:05.929
yellow jackets who You can't sneak up on you

00:37:05.929 --> 00:37:08.650
cannot sneak up on yellow jackets and they want

00:37:08.650 --> 00:37:11.170
to kill you. It's pretty gnarly What does the

00:37:11.170 --> 00:37:13.909
nest look like for the bald -faced hornets? The

00:37:13.909 --> 00:37:16.130
bald -faced hornets is the ones that looks like

00:37:16.130 --> 00:37:18.110
they're about the size of basketballs generally

00:37:18.110 --> 00:37:20.610
and they're very smooth on the outside yellow

00:37:20.610 --> 00:37:23.530
jackets have those little pleats in them and

00:37:23.530 --> 00:37:25.730
Please if somebody out there has a better way

00:37:25.730 --> 00:37:28.289
of describing or a more scientific way But the

00:37:28.289 --> 00:37:30.110
way I describe it is the yellow jackets have

00:37:30.110 --> 00:37:32.369
pleating on the outside. The bald -faced hornets

00:37:32.369 --> 00:37:34.760
are generally smooth And the yellow jackets are

00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.980
in the ground. They do. Yeah. Yellow jackets

00:37:36.980 --> 00:37:39.280
are in the ground as well. And they will find

00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.199
a hole in your suit. If you have a hole anywhere,

00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:44.920
they will find it. They are literally searching

00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.099
and honey bees are funny. They'll get on you

00:37:47.099 --> 00:37:49.019
and they'll do that motion where they're trying

00:37:49.019 --> 00:37:50.820
to sting and trying to sting and trying to sting

00:37:50.820 --> 00:37:54.099
and trying to sting. I had bees all over me trying

00:37:54.099 --> 00:37:57.679
to sting. Not one. Proper equipment. But you

00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.659
asked how I felt. My business is called Southern

00:38:00.659 --> 00:38:04.480
Oregon Swarms. because swarms are my passion

00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:08.539
I think that there is something magical about

00:38:08.539 --> 00:38:13.079
the feeling in the air around swarms you've got

00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.780
medicine men who talk about toning and they bang

00:38:16.780 --> 00:38:19.780
the gong and that gives a certain swarms do that

00:38:19.780 --> 00:38:24.489
too they they emanate this Just it's just it's

00:38:24.489 --> 00:38:26.329
incredible. I think that catching a swarm should

00:38:26.329 --> 00:38:28.389
be on everyone's bucket list whether they want

00:38:28.389 --> 00:38:32.289
it or not I'm one of those people and so I I

00:38:32.289 --> 00:38:34.010
take people around the valley We'll get a swarm

00:38:34.010 --> 00:38:36.710
call and I'll say hey, you've never caught a

00:38:36.710 --> 00:38:38.650
swarm Let's go and I'll catch the swarm with

00:38:38.650 --> 00:38:41.050
them just to be a part of it The bees go home

00:38:41.050 --> 00:38:44.389
with them and I go home happy inside of me. And

00:38:44.389 --> 00:38:48.039
so when I was out there The first two or three

00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.179
hours was really rough because when we got there,

00:38:50.219 --> 00:38:52.179
there was no motion whatsoever. And I thought,

00:38:52.219 --> 00:38:54.679
oh my God, what if they're all dead? And then

00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.559
there was this like, not like your hives sound

00:38:57.559 --> 00:38:59.579
at home when they're waking up, but like there

00:38:59.579 --> 00:39:02.239
was this other sound that was very sad. And I

00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.059
imagine that's the sound that your guys are talking

00:39:04.059 --> 00:39:06.539
about where it's like, it's depressing. You can

00:39:06.539 --> 00:39:10.199
tell that this is not okay. And the bees know

00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.059
it and you can hear it that there it's something

00:39:13.059 --> 00:39:18.050
is wrong. But then. About 2 p .m. They started

00:39:18.050 --> 00:39:21.250
sounding like swarms like genuine like there's

00:39:21.250 --> 00:39:23.969
a swarm somewhere in the vicinity There's a swarm

00:39:23.969 --> 00:39:27.690
and then there was two and then there was ten

00:39:27.690 --> 00:39:31.710
and the energy from that was just I Wouldn't

00:39:31.710 --> 00:39:34.889
doubt if it could cure some ailment like it was

00:39:34.889 --> 00:39:39.530
incredible and it was hopeful I May be a Maluni,

00:39:39.809 --> 00:39:43.719
but I could feel that there was hope And we're

00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:45.719
picking up, this is ridiculous. It's a beekeeper

00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.800
thing, right? But we're picking up hives and

00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.039
we're moving nukes and we're doing all of this

00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:53.360
stuff. And yet what am I staring at? I'm staring

00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:56.940
at that swarm right there. And all I want to

00:39:56.940 --> 00:40:00.860
do is go catch that swarm. I refrained. I was

00:40:00.860 --> 00:40:02.360
like, you know what? I'm here to move equipment.

00:40:02.420 --> 00:40:04.539
That's what I'm here to do. But several of the

00:40:04.539 --> 00:40:07.440
beekeepers out there were like, oh swarm. And

00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.159
we got, you know, very distracting. Alright before

00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.179
I let you go, I know you've been telling us this

00:40:15.179 --> 00:40:18.780
whole time about a wild and crazy honeybee story,

00:40:19.420 --> 00:40:21.860
but you said you have another one. Let's hear

00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:24.699
a wild and crazy beekeeping story. So my hope

00:40:24.699 --> 00:40:26.980
is that it's as inspirational as it was for me,

00:40:27.019 --> 00:40:29.519
but my wild crazy bee story is actually how I

00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:32.460
got into bees. I was not interested in honey

00:40:32.460 --> 00:40:35.239
bees whatsoever, but my friend at the pool hall,

00:40:35.380 --> 00:40:39.039
his name is John Lucas, his wife had cancer and

00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:40.880
she would come in late at night and she would

00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.860
have ice cream with us. And I got to know her

00:40:43.860 --> 00:40:46.780
a little bit and then she passed away. And John

00:40:46.780 --> 00:40:49.690
came to me one day and he said, I can't tell

00:40:49.690 --> 00:40:51.650
you how much they want for her tombstone, but

00:40:51.650 --> 00:40:54.050
I think that's absolutely ridiculous. He said,

00:40:54.070 --> 00:40:56.269
can I buy you all of the equipment it would take

00:40:56.269 --> 00:41:00.230
for you to keep a hive alive for Shirley? And

00:41:00.230 --> 00:41:06.389
so all of my bees come from him wanting to keep

00:41:06.389 --> 00:41:13.619
his wife's memory instead of a rock. So. So beautiful.

00:41:13.820 --> 00:41:15.840
It's beautiful. Thank you. He did that. And I

00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.039
wonder if a cemetery would allow us to have a

00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.739
beehive instead of a headstone. I don't think

00:41:20.739 --> 00:41:25.300
so. I don't think so either, but. Yep. Man, that'd

00:41:25.300 --> 00:41:27.920
be cool too, wouldn't it? All right. Well, I

00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.960
appreciate all of what you're doing and you're

00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.099
sharing these fun stories with us and touching

00:41:34.099 --> 00:41:36.679
story too. That's a neat way to get started.

00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.750
Yeah. All right. Tristan, take care. It was so

00:41:40.750 --> 00:41:46.050
nice to meet you. Thank you so much. Thanks again

00:41:46.050 --> 00:41:48.590
for joining us on Be Love, Be Keeping presented

00:41:48.590 --> 00:41:51.730
by Man Lake. Another big thank you goes to Vita

00:41:51.730 --> 00:41:54.949
B Health for their support. Vita's Varroa Control

00:41:54.949 --> 00:41:58.550
Ranger products includes Epistan, Epigard, and

00:41:58.550 --> 00:42:02.730
now Varroxan Extended Release Oxalic Acid Strips.

00:42:03.030 --> 00:42:05.269
Hey thanks a lot guys. And if you haven't yet,

00:42:05.590 --> 00:42:07.909
please subscribe to and follow the show, tell

00:42:07.909 --> 00:42:10.670
your friends about it, and click on over to BeLoveBeKeeping

00:42:10.670 --> 00:42:14.369
.com to sign up for our free newsletter. If you

00:42:14.369 --> 00:42:17.280
have a guest suggestion, or topic you'd like

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.079
discussed on the show, shoot me an email, eric

00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.960
at be love beekeeping dot com. And remember,

00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:25.639
if you're not just in it for the honey or the

00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.260
money, you're in it for the love. See you next

00:42:28.260 --> 00:42:28.619
week.